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05-01-2021, 03:09 PM

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9easy

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Allegiant doesn't fly to MSP so it doesn't really matter. Although I think MSP would be a great market in the future...

05-06-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville

So what was the number for that trucking school?

Just remember, they can't call you!!!!!

05-10-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by astaz

I'm not sure about the significant cost advantage... Their acquisition and lease cost will be WAYYY higher than that of what we buy our 320s for. Then, I'm guessing they're maybe going to get 140 people into the airplane. As an LCC/ULCC, your bread and butter is CASM.

Now this is super rough math... but... The A220, allegedly costs (Delta) $2,343 per block hour to operate without crew. The A320 (for Allegiant) is $2,979 per hour, again, without crew. If you have 140 people sharing that cost for the 220, it brings you out to $16.74 each. If you have 186 people paying for the 320, it comes out to $16.02 each.

Now, I'm not saying the 220 doesn't have a niche, because it most certainly does... but on your bread and butter routes, the 320's economics are pretty tough to beat. ESPECIALLY if you can sell all the extra seats (and the bags, seat selections, and cheez-itz to go along with them).

Couple thoughts: are you including the fuel cost in the $2,343 per block hour calculation? My understanding is that the 220 is approximately 20-30% more fuel efficient than a standard 320. Also, a huge part of Breeze's CASM is going to be rock bottom pay for crew. I don't know why any pilot would apply there when ULCC's with solid pay rates (or soon to be solid pay rates with an amended CBA) are already going through the hiring process. But, if they do get enough pilots to be enticed by a new airline where they can achieve high seniority then their CASM will certainly be a competitive advantage over the other established ULCCs.