Pros and Cons of Allegiant
03-26-2021, 05:47 PM
#101
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1
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As a pilot with Allegiant for almost two years now I feel obligated to post the concerns I have with the company and inform those considering the company for employment. I typically don’t post on these sites but here it goes. At first, I was excited to join G4 in order to spend more time with my family. Then, I was quickly introduced to the inadequacies within the training department. There is an apparent confusion with standardization and one will consistently receive contradicting instruction. More importantly, I no longer feel like the company has me or my family’s best interest in mind. I get that it’s a business but some things go too far morally. Their actions and communication during the pandemic was disgusting. They will consistently walk over you, abuse the contract, adjust your schedule, and basically do whatever they want to you. The union guidance is to just file a grievance. There has been great strides in the union, but the are fighting a hard battle. The main draw to this organization is day-trips and sleeping in your own bed. However, keep in mind that as a junior pilot, they can send you wherever and whenever via TDY’s, and run a displacement bid (essentially kicking you out of your home) whenever they want. My personal quality of life has decreased significantly since transitioning. Life here for the top 40% is great; however, the junior pilots get used and abused worse than the regionals. Unfortunately, the top 40% is relatively young and not going anywhere. Therefore, new hires will have a worse quality of life than the regionals for a long time. In comparison to other majors: Pay is lowest, contract is weakest, upgrade times are relatively high (if ever in a handful of bases), management is combative, crew services is deceptive, and there are serious administrative deficiencies. My overall recommendation is to look elsewhere. You sacrificed a lot financially and personally to get this far in your career. Go to an organization that respects their pilots.
03-27-2021, 06:05 AM
#102
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 16
As a pilot with Allegiant for almost two years now I feel obligated to post the concerns I have with the company and inform those considering the company for employment. I typically don’t post on these sites but here it goes. At first, I was excited to join G4 in order to spend more time with my family. Then, I was quickly introduced to the inadequacies within the training department. There is an apparent confusion with standardization and one will consistently receive contradicting instruction. More importantly, I no longer feel like the company has me or my family’s best interest in mind. I get that it’s a business but some things go too far morally. Their actions and communication during the pandemic was disgusting. They will consistently walk over you, abuse the contract, adjust your schedule, and basically do whatever they want to you. The union guidance is to just file a grievance. There has been great strides in the union, but the are fighting a hard battle. The main draw to this organization is day-trips and sleeping in your own bed. However, keep in mind that as a junior pilot, they can send you wherever and whenever via TDY’s, and run a displacement bid (essentially kicking you out of your home) whenever they want. My personal quality of life has decreased significantly since transitioning. Life here for the top 40% is great; however, the junior pilots get used and abused worse than the regionals. Unfortunately, the top 40% is relatively young and not going anywhere. Therefore, new hires will have a worse quality of life than the regionals for a long time. In comparison to other majors: Pay is lowest, contract is weakest, upgrade times are relatively high (if ever in a handful of bases), management is combative, crew services is deceptive, and there are serious administrative deficiencies. My overall recommendation is to look elsewhere. You sacrificed a lot financially and personally to get this far in your career. Go to an organization that respects their pilots.
To say that new hires WILL have a worse QOL than the regionals is ridiculous. That’s not a certainty - It certainly wasn’t for me. It depends on many things, you know that. We aren’t the lowest paid or the worst contract, have you forgotten about Sun Country and Breeze - kind of a joke
It’s my experience that individuals who frequently talk about the inadequacies of the training department are usually ignoring their own inadequacies in training. Except for some bad apples, the instructors and check airmen are good, and if you don’t feel over prepared for your type ride, it’s probably not a training department issue. Hang in there, man. If we grow like they are saying, it gets better!Here comes that former allegiant commuter that can't get over his career choices in 3...2...1
Last edited by John Jay; 03-27-2021 at 06:06 AM. Reason: Spacing
03-27-2021, 06:51 AM
#103
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,131
As a pilot with Allegiant for almost two years now I feel obligated to post the concerns I have with the company and inform those considering the company for employment. I typically don’t post on these sites but here it goes. At first, I was excited to join G4 in order to spend more time with my family. Then, I was quickly introduced to the inadequacies within the training department. There is an apparent confusion with standardization and one will consistently receive contradicting instruction. More importantly, I no longer feel like the company has me or my family’s best interest in mind. I get that it’s a business but some things go too far morally. Their actions and communication during the pandemic was disgusting. They will consistently walk over you, abuse the contract, adjust your schedule, and basically do whatever they want to you. The union guidance is to just file a grievance. There has been great strides in the union, but the are fighting a hard battle. The main draw to this organization is day-trips and sleeping in your own bed. However, keep in mind that as a junior pilot, they can send you wherever and whenever via TDY’s, and run a displacement bid (essentially kicking you out of your home) whenever they want. My personal quality of life has decreased significantly since transitioning. Life here for the top 40% is great; however, the junior pilots get used and abused worse than the regionals. Unfortunately, the top 40% is relatively young and not going anywhere. Therefore, new hires will have a worse quality of life than the regionals for a long time. In comparison to other majors: Pay is lowest, contract is weakest, upgrade times are relatively high (if ever in a handful of bases), management is combative, crew services is deceptive, and there are serious administrative deficiencies. My overall recommendation is to look elsewhere. You sacrificed a lot financially and personally to get this far in your career. Go to an organization that respects their pilots.
03-27-2021, 01:56 PM
#104
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Position: Airbus Captain
Posts: 68
As a pilot with Allegiant for almost two years now I feel obligated to post the concerns I have with the company and inform those considering the company for employment. I typically don’t post on these sites but here it goes. At first, I was excited to join G4 in order to spend more time with my family. Then, I was quickly introduced to the inadequacies within the training department. There is an apparent confusion with standardization and one will consistently receive contradicting instruction. More importantly, I no longer feel like the company has me or my family’s best interest in mind. I get that it’s a business but some things go too far morally. Their actions and communication during the pandemic was disgusting. They will consistently walk over you, abuse the contract, adjust your schedule, and basically do whatever they want to you. The union guidance is to just file a grievance. There has been great strides in the union, but the are fighting a hard battle. The main draw to this organization is day-trips and sleeping in your own bed. However, keep in mind that as a junior pilot, they can send you wherever and whenever via TDY’s, and run a displacement bid (essentially kicking you out of your home) whenever they want. My personal quality of life has decreased significantly since transitioning. Life here for the top 40% is great; however, the junior pilots get used and abused worse than the regionals. Unfortunately, the top 40% is relatively young and not going anywhere. Therefore, new hires will have a worse quality of life than the regionals for a long time. In comparison to other majors: Pay is lowest, contract is weakest, upgrade times are relatively high (if ever in a handful of bases), management is combative, crew services is deceptive, and there are serious administrative deficiencies. My overall recommendation is to look elsewhere. You sacrificed a lot financially and personally to get this far in your career. Go to an organization that respects their pilots.
Yawn...Copy & paste to any major and the above would apply. Except perhaps replace 'senior pilots young and not going anywhere' with 'not hiring'. Have to agree with Margaritaville's response to this one.
04-01-2021, 09:45 AM
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 533
04-21-2021, 11:19 AM
#107
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 220
Of course we'd like to negotiate that into the next contract along with a hundred other improvements. What will actually make it to print when it comes up for vote remains to be seen. I think everyone is prepared to buckle in for a long bumpy road.
04-23-2021, 03:18 PM
#108
Quarantined
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 181
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04-23-2021, 03:29 PM
#110
Quarantined
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 181
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