doubleaces12

Can we trust the seniority charts on Allegiant's Website showing FO and Captain Seniority?

I'm about to hit my 1500 and would really like to go with Allegiant if I could get based in TYS? I live at TYS. Anyone have an Idea if I can get it soon after training?

Or does anyone recommend another option? I've got a class with PSA in 2 months, but I'd have to commute with that option.

Any Tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Banana172

How many 737s is Allegiant expecting to see by year end?

Jim Rockford

At the rate they are going Zero. Or 1 by Dec 31.

ppgpilot

How likely is it for a new hire to get a ABE base?

310skying

starting next month all new hires should expect to be awarded 737 SFB with a two year seat lock

Excargodog

Last I saw, TYS was a two aircraft base:

https://ir.allegiantair.com/news-rel...obs-and-future

While that can change at any time, what that means is that since Allegiant has 1141 pilots for (roughly) 150 aircraft the base likely has about 16 pilots - meaning likely 8 CAs and 8 FOs. For you to get one of those 8 FO slots there needs to be:

a. A vacancy.
b. None of the other 550 FOs senior to you desiring that vacancy since they would have priority over you.

Now that is truly unpredictable. Even with all the FO turnover, your chances of getting the base you want as an FO is entirely dependent on the choices made by every FO senior to you. For upgrade, it’s even worse.

Basically, at Allegiant you really ought to be willing to MOVE to whatever base you get because commuting at Allegiant will be worse than at just about any other major because of its frequency of turns and short trips.

tailendcharlie

Also beware of going off data from the last few classes...people on here will say "everyone's been getting their base within a few months" or something like it. Maybe so but like the previous poster pointed out with a base as small as TYS it doesn't take much to lock it up, maybe for a long while. I currently have a friend going on over 18 months with the company finally getting the base he wanted in August.

Squeakygreaser

You can get based in TYS, it's one of our most desirable bases for new hires though, it took 2 years for my classmate to get it but now they are about 50% up the First Officer seniority list after not quite 4 years. My guess is you would get awarded it in a few months and be there within a year. Allegiant not getting a contract is actually good for you as people will likely stop leaving after we get one. But even if we stop losing people, both TYS and AVL have growth planned and people will upgrade from one to the other so that base probably won't be locked up.

It's true that if you get the 737 you'll be locked for 2 years, it's also true that it could take 2 years to hold TYS anyway. But optimistically you could get it sooner than that.

Squeakygreaser

It's the most consistently junior base, that doesn't mean 100 percent chance you'd get it in training but I'm guessing maybe a 50% chance of getting it straight away.

pipercub

Guessing base assignments are hard at Allegiant. A new hire can get at base in one class and then it takes 3 years for the next class to get a spot in the base. The smaller the base the harder it is to predict. If the base grows by an aircraft seniority changes a lot. The other problem is that because of day trips if someone is in a base for a while they usually end up moving to the base. This makes a lot of pilots in a given base not leave and make seniority stop or stagnate. This is even more so on the CA side. People move in and stay. For example, all of the CA in Bellingham live up that way and are not likely leaving so unless the base sees some growth it is year and years for a CA seat there. So what happens is people have to either go to another carrier or another base for even the possibility to upgrade. Then you have a new base open and sometimes this opens new opportunities in other bases, but can also hurt a base by moving flying out to the new base, and pilots with seniority end up sliding back in the quality of life. We have bases that First officers could almost hold CA seats in multiple bases but are middle or back half on the FO list in Base. The bigger we have gotten and the more bases they have opened the more it's almost impossible to have anything close to an accurate guess. You could get TYS out of GS and then sit bottom for years without an option to upgrade or in 2 years the base could have ten planes and you are a middle seniority captain. Right now without a Contract Growth is not happening, it's just shifting of assets trying to cover the most flying possible during peak times in areas. How long a contract takes is truly who knows, it could be six months or three years.