Originally Posted by skywardbound172

Thank's everyone, I appreciate the feedback. The contract and pay are well noted. The info is all noted. I'm a little torn. Obviously, not everyone gets to grow up in a small town and have the opportunity to have a 121 base show up with large equipment. Driving 12 minutes to work and flying an Airbus in the place I grew up and where my family has roots is pretty attractive. Then again, so are Delta, United, and AA, even with a commute. I don't want to waste anyone's time, and the last thing I want to do is leave in the middle of training, but who knows if the big 3 will call? I don't have a degree which is sort of the reason I ended up taking the meandering career path I did. I have heard from inside and out that Delta has forsaken the degree entirely, but UA and AA are holding firm. We'll see if I can get through the interview, and then I'll have the decision to make. Thanks, everyone for taking the time!

Originally Posted by skywardbound172

Thank's everyone, I appreciate the feedback. The contract and pay are well noted. The info is all noted. I'm a little torn. Obviously, not everyone gets to grow up in a small town and have the opportunity to have a 121 base show up with large equipment. Driving 12 minutes to work and flying an Airbus in the place I grew up and where my family has roots is pretty attractive. Then again, so are Delta, United, and AA, even with a commute. I don't want to waste anyone's time, and the last thing I want to do is leave in the middle of training, but who knows if the big 3 will call? I don't have a degree which is sort of the reason I ended up taking the meandering career path I did. I have heard from inside and out that Delta has forsaken the degree entirely, but UA and AA are holding firm. We'll see if I can get through the interview, and then I'll have the decision to make. Thanks, everyone for taking the time!

Originally Posted by mrlarryjohnson

Since the terminal expansion is almost done, any new rumors on BLV becoming a base?

Originally Posted by tom11011

If you do not get ATW right away during training, it will probably take about 6 months to get in. I would heed the advice above re the small base strategy and the possibility of it going away. The company has told shareholders they are predicting a 25% turnover rate this year which is a lot, but so far it is looking more like 1/3 ie 33%. We appear to be losing on average 1 pilot per day. First year pay is $57.67 per hour which is lower then all airlines including regionals which will gross you just under $50,000 per year. It will be a tough first year. Our airline is in a bit of trouble right now. Contract negotiations have been difficult and we were just assigned a Federal mediator. First mediated session is set for April. The estimation from our Union is we are still 1-2 years away from a new contract if we can survive what's coming.

Originally Posted by Greyhound89

The union has never once put a specific timeline on negotiations, you know this. Allegiant will also survive, you know this.

Originally Posted by tom11011

Oh yes they have, AR set expectations immediately, he said to expect 3 years. Go back and watch your videos if you doubt this.

EDIT: re-watch his video from March 4, 2022.

Originally Posted by trvsmrtn

3 years is specific?

Originally Posted by tom11011

Define specific, watch the video, he lays it out.

Also, look at the company survey from last year. 33% of pilots who responded to the survey believed we would have had a TA by end of 2022, followed by a group (28%) that said 1st quarter this year. This tells us that the majority of pilots didn't believe AR's assessment of just how long this will take. He has set the right tone by, on more then one occasion, telling the group they should consider looking elsewhere as this is not going to be a quick process at all.

In my opinion, we will negotiate on and off with the mediator all of 2023 and likely be released by the mediator in mid-2024. I will be happy to be proven wrong. We are not going to have a new contract until the company wants us to have it.