Allegiant Bases
#871
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
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Not sure I see 500 happening. Attrition here is virtually all lower end of the list. Last year we lost 139 pilots which given the opportunities out there doesn’t seem like a lot. What could be problematic is we’re unable to hire enough FO’s to maintain status-quo & have to downgrade CA’s to balance out staffing. That could kick-start the graveyard spiral everyone seems to be predicting.
Anyone who listened carefully to what the EXCO was saying the past year and isn’t willing to sell themselves short to be home every night - they’ve already left or have applied. All these guys just now supposedly submitting PRIA requests & updating their logbooks - I’ll believe when I see it. Most of these folks aren’t leaving unless their base closes.
Anyone who listened carefully to what the EXCO was saying the past year and isn’t willing to sell themselves short to be home every night - they’ve already left or have applied. All these guys just now supposedly submitting PRIA requests & updating their logbooks - I’ll believe when I see it. Most of these folks aren’t leaving unless their base closes.
There is huge ripple effects here with either of these two scenarios.
Take a smaller base like SAV. It only has 9 Captains and 10 FO's. This flying can be absorbed elsewhere easily, but these Captains are senior and their displacement into Florida will be felt by junior Captains in Florida.
On the flip side, take a base like ABE. Not very senior at all because most do not want to live there. Much more pilots in this base, there is 17 Captains and 16 FO's. I would estimate 75% of the Captains from this base will be downgraded right back to where they used to be on displacement.
If you are considering coming here, I would think about the following two things.
- Why is Allegiant not upgrading Captains for the last several months when everyone else is?
- Are you considering Allegiant for any of the following bases? ABE, ATW, FNT, SAV, and VPS? I think these are the bases that could have issues.
Last edited by tom11011; 01-05-2023 at 12:02 PM.
#872
#873
I think there is 2 ways to look at which bases will have to be closed, a near certainty. The first way is base size and how easily that flying can be absorbed into another base(s). For example some are basically seasonal and go down to 1 or 2 airplanes off season. Easily absorbed. But the second way is base staffing and this includes Flight Attendants as well. It's possible we have a base that cannot be staffed and has continuous cancellations, its just an undesirable place for people to want to live so its a continuous revolving door. In short, the decision to close the base could be for two different reasons.
There is huge ripple effects here with either of these two scenarios.
Take a smaller base like SAV. It only has 9 Captains and 10 FO's. This flying can be absorbed elsewhere easily, but these Captains are senior and their displacement into Florida will be felt by junior Captains in Florida.
On the flip side, take a base like ABE. Not very senior at all because most do not want to live there. Much more pilots in this base, there is 17 Captains and 16 FO's. I would estimate 75% of the Captains from this base will be downgraded right back to where they used to be on displacement.
If you are considering coming here, I would think about the following two things.
There is huge ripple effects here with either of these two scenarios.
Take a smaller base like SAV. It only has 9 Captains and 10 FO's. This flying can be absorbed elsewhere easily, but these Captains are senior and their displacement into Florida will be felt by junior Captains in Florida.
On the flip side, take a base like ABE. Not very senior at all because most do not want to live there. Much more pilots in this base, there is 17 Captains and 16 FO's. I would estimate 75% of the Captains from this base will be downgraded right back to where they used to be on displacement.
If you are considering coming here, I would think about the following two things.
- Why is Allegiant not upgrading Captains for the last several months when everyone else is?
- Are you considering Allegiant for any of the following bases? ABE, ATW, FNT, SAV, and VPS? I think these are the bases that could have issues.
#875
That's how it is though, the bottom of that base has consistent openings because above the bottom two FO spots there is no attrition at all.
#876
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 2
The bottom FO in BLI wants out, but they are waiting for a spot to open up in a base that has multiple people above them waiting for it. So...sort of hard to say really.
That's how it is though, the bottom of that base has consistent openings because above the bottom two FO spots there is no attrition at all.
That's how it is though, the bottom of that base has consistent openings because above the bottom two FO spots there is no attrition at all.
Thank you for the info, quite helpful for me to know. do you like it there at Allegiant?
#878
BLI in the past when things are moving is usually easy to get. The problem is Upgrade is not possible. The CA list has next to no turn over almost all the CA have been there since the base opened. 16 year CA sitting on Reserve. If you want PNW this is not a good option. Unless you ok being an FO for your career.
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