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Old 10-19-2018, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
With the latest head count projections and the credible rumor we now aren't getting 5 more planes we were slated to get, don't look for any hiring in 2019.
Definitely looks like a lot of stagnation for a long time to come. It wasn’t that long ago that people were upgrading in a year or less. Now I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect 7-10 year upgrades depending on where you’re looking to be based. Pretty unbelievable that we will likely go two years without hiring in the most pilot friendly hiring period in decades.
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Would be a big benefit to have the plan going forward. The issues mentioned above seem to clash with the idea that all growth was waiting on the fleet transition to end.

If no updates to our fleet plan soon I will start leaning towards the idea of stagnation. Until then I’m optimistic. Hopefully we get hear something in the next few weeks.
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Old 10-20-2018, 06:22 AM
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Would be a big benefit to have the plan going forward. The issues mentioned above seem to clash with the idea that all growth was waiting on the fleet transition to end.
"After the small pause to complete the transition things are going to go gangbusters... growth/planes/hiring/bases galore. We're just on the leading edge of the wave" - quoted several times over the past year from those that should be in the know. Time to put up or shut up

An official plan would be great though... I understand you can't tip your hand too much but I'd say no news is bad news
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Originally Posted by RunningB
"After the small pause to complete the transition things are going to go gangbusters... growth/planes/hiring/bases galore. We're just on the leading edge of the wave" - quoted several times over the past year from those that should be in the know. Time to put up or shut up

An official plan would be great though... I understand you can't tip your hand too much but I'd say no news is bad news
The lack of any real long term plan is unsettling. Any one of us can literally go anywhere assuming you have a clean record. If the future of this "airline" is going to be go karts, laser tag, put put golf and condo's I think many of us would be well served to seek employment elsewhere. There are plenty of other airlines with better pay, more diverse flying, better equipment and a focus on running an actual airline.


The next year will be very telling in regards to Allegiants real plans. I'd get ahead of the game and get your apps now.
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Old 10-20-2018, 07:44 AM
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The lack of any real long term plan is unsettling. Any one of us can literally go anywhere assuming you have a clean record. If the future of this "airline" is going to be go karts, laser tag, put put golf and condo's I think many of us would be well served to seek employment elsewhere. There are plenty of other airlines with better pay, more diverse flying, better equipment and a focus on running an actual airline.


The next year will be very telling in regards to Allegiants real plans. I'd get ahead of the game and get your apps now.
When has this company not played "I have a secret"?
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:11 AM
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When has this company not played "I have a secret"?
True. But the hiring environment for now and for the foreseeable future at the legacies and elsewhere is highly favorable. Now would be a good time to show your cards. Some of us have an upcoming interview.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:40 AM
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Word is, we signed a deal for X number of Buses with (I’m assuming) a middle-man 3rd party company. Well, we aren’t the only airline looking to buy used aircraft.

Another airline swooped in and, despite a contract signed by us, outbid us. Said company paid us a “penalty” to get out of our deal and now someone has these aircraft. I would say this scenario is likely true and did happen. 🙄
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:45 AM
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Potential furlough?
Furlough during the biggest airline hiring boom in 50 years? If they furlough that will be the sign for everyone still here to blow the escape slides. It will mean we are definitely going out of business as an airline because they will never get another pilot worth his salt to come work here and they won't play that card unless the decision is made. And the furloughees will be working at the big 4 or our competitor ULCCs within a few months. Those who wait to see what happens will be their FOs.
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Well if they truly only want 7.1 pilots per plane and the airframe number gets stuck at 77...that’s a whopping 547 pilots.


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Originally Posted by disco inferno
The lack of any real long term plan is unsettling. Any one of us can literally go anywhere assuming you have a clean record. If the future of this "airline" is going to be go karts, laser tag, put put golf and condo's I think many of us would be well served to seek employment elsewhere. There are plenty of other airlines with better pay, more diverse flying, better equipment and a focus on running an actual airline.


The next year will be very telling in regards to Allegiants real plans. I'd get ahead of the game and get your apps now.


I remember being told that Andrew Levy told a recurrent class once when asked what the 5 year plan was that they didn’t have one. Told them they never looked more than 3-4 months down the road. Class was appalled. Looks like the same mindset.


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