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#512
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Joined APC: May 2016
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also, a word of caution: the contract has no protections against pilots being as the company coined it “vacancy reduced,” which is like a displacement except it only involves base, not aircraft type or seat, and the pilot doesn’t receive system wide displacement rights nor moving benefits . They can literally move 8 fos from one base to another without tdy protections, even if said “displaced” pilot would rather go to a different base with a more junior pilot. All because whoever negotiated the contract messed up the definition of “position” and the language in the displacement section of the contract. The union called them out on a this and came to an settlement with the company on a no cite non precedent setting basis, however, they may try and do this again in the future if contract negotiations get bad. The company pulling this card again will literally cause junior pilots to live like migrant farm workers.
the contract here needs *major* improvements in Areas such as this and it should be major pause for anyone thinking of coming here who doesn’t live in One of the newer, junior bases. There will probably be plenty of vacancies for new hires to bid to bases like VPS and LAX coming up soon, but there is little in the contract that will provide those pilots any stability.
#514
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Joined APC: May 2016
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Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturday are very low fly days so you can expect those as your days off as a junior pilot, especially in the off season. Not to mention we have a horrendous “pbs” system that will cause you major stress to try and arrange your schedule like that. Why would you come here to commute and pay for your crashpad when there are options out there with multi day trips?
#515
Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturday are very low fly days so you can expect those as your days off as a junior pilot, especially in the off season. Not to mention we have a horrendous “pbs” system that will cause you major stress to try and arrange your schedule like that. Why would you come here to commute and pay for your crashpad when there are options out there with multi day trips?
I'm already paying for a crash-pad in base so really don't see much of a difference.
#517
Definitely my first choice would be UAL or SWA. But if they aren't knocking on my door I don't see any reason not to improve QOL and get a new type in the process.
#518
I think you would hate it if you try to do what you're proposing. If you like our business model, and can move to a junior base, you'll love it. That has really become the requirement to be happy here. This is a live in base airline. If you can't or won't live in any of our bases then you should look elsewhere. We need people who will be happy here and want to stay not "try it out", take a type, then leave for an airline that has a base in your city.
If you get an interview, be honest and tell them that you plan to try it and take a free type rating and wait for someone else to call. See how that works out. Hopefully, they are able to weed people like this out, because we are going to start getting more and more like this.
#519
Voluntary/involuntary tdy historically. There is no limit as to how many consecutive months an individual pilot may be tdy’d. Some junior cas were recently involuntarily tdy’d 3 months in a row out of sanford during the slower fall months (Aug-Oct if I recall). Sometimes the vacancy that becomes effective Sept 1 causes some movement that naturally shrinks the summer seasonal bases for fos because they won’t fill the secondary vacancies. However I will say lately the trend has been more tdy in to the seasonal bases in peak as opposed to tdy out during the off season. That’s prob because there is more movement with regular vacancies etc. things will change in the future. It’s very hard to say how things go around here since each base is so small, and they’ve been doing things differently lately such as increasing off season flying in those seasonal bases in what I view as an effort to flatten seasonality (eg IWA does a lot of SNA and SAN flying in summer off season, VPS has more year round flying to distant destinations such as BOS).
also, a word of caution: the contract has no protections against pilots being as the company coined it “vacancy reduced,” which is like a displacement except it only involves base, not aircraft type or seat, and the pilot doesn’t receive system wide displacement rights nor moving benefits . They can literally move 8 fos from one base to another without tdy protections, even if said “displaced” pilot would rather go to a different base with a more junior pilot. All because whoever negotiated the contract messed up the definition of “position” and the language in the displacement section of the contract. The union called them out on a this and came to an settlement with the company on a no cite non precedent setting basis, however, they may try and do this again in the future if contract negotiations get bad. The company pulling this card again will literally cause junior pilots to live like migrant farm workers.
the contract here needs *major* improvements in Areas such as this and it should be major pause for anyone thinking of coming here who doesn’t live in One of the newer, junior bases. There will probably be plenty of vacancies for new hires to bid to bases like VPS and LAX coming up soon, but there is little in the contract that will provide those pilots any stability.
also, a word of caution: the contract has no protections against pilots being as the company coined it “vacancy reduced,” which is like a displacement except it only involves base, not aircraft type or seat, and the pilot doesn’t receive system wide displacement rights nor moving benefits . They can literally move 8 fos from one base to another without tdy protections, even if said “displaced” pilot would rather go to a different base with a more junior pilot. All because whoever negotiated the contract messed up the definition of “position” and the language in the displacement section of the contract. The union called them out on a this and came to an settlement with the company on a no cite non precedent setting basis, however, they may try and do this again in the future if contract negotiations get bad. The company pulling this card again will literally cause junior pilots to live like migrant farm workers.
the contract here needs *major* improvements in Areas such as this and it should be major pause for anyone thinking of coming here who doesn’t live in One of the newer, junior bases. There will probably be plenty of vacancies for new hires to bid to bases like VPS and LAX coming up soon, but there is little in the contract that will provide those pilots any stability.
#520
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
If you get an interview, be honest and tell them that you plan to try it and take a free type rating and wait for someone else to call. See how that works out. Hopefully, they are able to weed people like this out, because we are going to start getting more and more like this.
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