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Old 06-15-2021, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by profitpilot
how is ABE with avg block and typical schedule?
ABE
no overnights
average block: 5hrs
85% of trips are single turns
show time before 0800lcl 54%
pairing block hrs 0-4: 9%
pairing block hrs 4-6: 84%
pairing block hrs 6-8: 7%
pairing block hrs 8+: 0%

3 airplane base, expect seasonality. Busy summer schedule slower winter schedule. One of our more junior bases
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 310skying
ABE
no overnights
average block: 5hrs
85% of trips are single turns
show time before 0800lcl 54%
pairing block hrs 0-4: 9%
pairing block hrs 4-6: 84%
pairing block hrs 6-8: 7%
pairing block hrs 8+: 0%

3 airplane base, expect seasonality. Busy summer schedule slower winter schedule. One of our more junior bases
thanks for the numbers! Does seasonality imply I could get displaced as a junior pilot in ABE?
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by profitpilot
thanks for the numbers! Does seasonality imply I could get displaced as a junior pilot in ABE?

Our July TDY bid had 2 pilots TDY’d out of ABE. The two TDY slots were taken voluntarily. Of the 43 TDYs offered in July only 6 were forced involuntarily. A lot of pilots will opt to take a TDY because you earn 24/7 perdiem and if you can get a base where you have family, friends, or an RV you can also pocket hotel and rental car money, earning you an extra couple thousand a month.

the future of TDY is up in the air. We used to have a VDB pilot domicile that would cover the seasonality fluctuations in our bases, or cover summer only bases. This was disbanded and led to forced displacements under the guise of “cost control”. It’s rumored this Will most likely come back as we open 3 bases a year.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:43 PM
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Has there ever been talk of a KIAG (Niagara Falls) base? It seems like there’s a lot of potential for growth.
I live 15 minutes from there so it’d be great for me.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:55 PM
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No way eh!
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 310skying
Our July TDY bid had 2 pilots TDY’d out of ABE. The two TDY slots were taken voluntarily. Of the 43 TDYs offered in July only 6 were forced involuntarily. A lot of pilots will opt to take a TDY because you earn 24/7 perdiem and if you can get a base where you have family, friends, or an RV you can also pocket hotel and rental car money, earning you an extra couple thousand a month.

the future of TDY is up in the air. We used to have a VDB pilot domicile that would cover the seasonality fluctuations in our bases, or cover summer only bases. This was disbanded and led to forced displacements under the guise of “cost control”. It’s rumored this Will most likely come back as we open 3 bases a year.
thats pretty cool in theory. Is there any base I would 100% be safe from displacement?
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by profitpilot
how is ABE with avg block and typical schedule?
mostly single legs but much shorter on average.
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:55 PM
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I know there's still a lot of variables and dust that needs to get settled, but how junior/senior has CVG traditionally gone? I live about an hour and a half away but wouldn't be opposed to moving a little closer as I have family in the area. Also, for guys that live in a base but get assigned a different base out of training, what do they usually do until they can hold the base they live in? Commute in day before/day of and just get get a hotel/crashpad in town since they'll be back in base each night?
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Old 06-15-2021, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by trouljaboy
I know there's still a lot of variables and dust that needs to get settled, but how junior/senior has CVG traditionally gone? I live about an hour and a half away but wouldn't be opposed to moving a little closer as I have family in the area. Also, for guys that live in a base but get assigned a different base out of training, what do they usually do until they can hold the base they live in? Commute in day before/day of and just get get a hotel/crashpad in town since they'll be back in base each night?

I’ll let someone else answer the CVG seniority question, but I do want to point out for anyone contemplating it. Although we have pilots that do it, living 90 minutes away sucks almost as bad as commuting. Our showtimes are mostly between 5 and 6 am for morning trips. Or end times between 11 and 12 pm for PM trips. Driving that 90 minutes each way gets old really quickly. Additionally, reserve callout time is 90 minutes.

To answer the commuting question, yes people get crashpads/hotels when in base while commuting. I commuted for the first year while waiting on my base. It was doable, but being in base is substantially better. The problem with many of our bases is that they are very hard to commute into. Think ABE, IWA, PGD etc.


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I’ll let someone else answer the CVG seniority question, but I do want to point out for anyone contemplating it. Although we have pilots that do it, living 90 minutes away sucks almost as bad as commuting. Our showtimes are mostly between 5 and 6 am for morning trips. Or end times between 11 and 12 pm for PM trips. Driving that 90 minutes each way gets old really quickly. Additionally, reserve callout time is 90 minutes.

To answer the commuting question, yes people get crashpads/hotels when in base while commuting. I commuted for the first year while waiting on my base. It was doable, but being in base is substantially better. The problem with many of our bases is that they are very hard to commute into. Think ABE, IWA, PGD etc.


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That's what I figured. I know it's not a super-commutable job, was just wondering how it went for guys commuting from one base they couldn't hold out of training while waiting on it. CVG would work great for me as I wouldn't mind re-locating there, and have family in the area I could stay with before I was able to up and move. Thanks for the info!
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