waterboy

"See how close we come?" How about our mentality be, "see how much we beat it by" Don't settle for mediocrity.

Packrat

Hopefully the majority of the pilot group has learned this lesson. Don't be afraid to vote NO if the contract isn't to your liking.

echelon

But there probably won't be a vote, right, since all signs point to arbitration?

Bugaboo

We will know where this is heading in two weeks. Time is running out if AK truly doesnt want this to go to arbitration. My best guess is that we will se the results in the second week of October.

MiLtoMajor123

So how much of a pay increase would worry you about having a job in the future given the history of the industry? Sure you "got yours" in the short term....but is there a long term? Can we compete and grow as an airline (without mounds of dept) with equal compensation (compared to bigger airlines) to employees?

Alaska has a lot of needs right now if it wants to grow.....more sims...bigger buildings. That growth benefits most everyone in the long run. All I'm saying is to make Big airline $$$, we need Big airlines infrastructure and equipment (read: more). Already probably getting a good pay raise in the fall. How much of an increase in wages scares you into thinking it will stunt AS's growth potential? All I'm saying is if we get too much we are literally anchoring the growth potential of our jobs. And again, I can't wait for the much needed pay raise.

Bugaboo

That is a bunch of BS! Mgt can figure out how to pay for infrastructure...and not off my back. It has nothing to to "getting mine". Its a cost of doing business....nothing more nothing less.

echelon

Why don't you just pay them to let you work there?

Outdoors

So other work groups etc can follow market rates but pilots following "higher" market rates stunts growth. Got it. You simply should be in management and not a pilot with that intelligence.

Packrat

That's probably what he's shooting for. He'd fit right in at Angle Lake.

Going2Baja

You sound like as much of a koolaide drinker as that ArcticF16 or whatever his name was. You guys deserve to be put to par at the highest current B737 operator. You do ETOPS, SE, and the arctic - Why would you sell yourself short? Get out of that military mindset dude!

Baja.