Senority List Integration from 2007 on......
04-04-2016, 05:47 PM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Jet
Posts: 214
The blood hasn't even dried and we already have people whining like stuck pigs. You know who you are, "oh my vagina hurts" cry babies! SLI will be what it will be and none of us involved will have very little to no control over it. I feel for all ranks but especially the junior folks, no doubt.
Some of you feel extremely entitled, having spent over a decade at a regional or wherever before coming to Alaskan Airways. Guess what, everyone here has paid their dues one way or another so man up! We all bash the senior "I got mine" crowd but some of you act just like them. Like it or not, $hit just hit the fan for both pilot groups and neither of the groups wanted/asked for/dreamed of this so now, we deal with it like an adult. I hate to break it to you but life is not fair. I bet you didn't know that. For once, put yourself aside and try to put yourself in the shoes of a junior Virgin pilot or someone less junior to you. This is the exact sort of attitude that got us our current turd of a contract! True colors are coming out from the woodworks.
Btw, I'm pretty sure Klsytakesit voted NO on our last contract. I know it's just a web forum but you'll get no credibility when you spout off from your anus.
Some of you feel extremely entitled, having spent over a decade at a regional or wherever before coming to Alaskan Airways. Guess what, everyone here has paid their dues one way or another so man up! We all bash the senior "I got mine" crowd but some of you act just like them. Like it or not, $hit just hit the fan for both pilot groups and neither of the groups wanted/asked for/dreamed of this so now, we deal with it like an adult. I hate to break it to you but life is not fair. I bet you didn't know that. For once, put yourself aside and try to put yourself in the shoes of a junior Virgin pilot or someone less junior to you. This is the exact sort of attitude that got us our current turd of a contract! True colors are coming out from the woodworks.
Btw, I'm pretty sure Klsytakesit voted NO on our last contract. I know it's just a web forum but you'll get no credibility when you spout off from your anus.
04-04-2016, 07:10 PM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
Seriously dude?!?!
I won't get into details and start another argument, as some of ya'll just like to pick fights on these boards. EVERYONE paid their dues, whether you were a regional guy or a military bubba. Everyone has a sob story. Quite frankly, I'm tired of these guys who come up to me and tell me, "I didn't f-ing spend xx years at a regional for this". News flash.... no one made you give up your cushy regional job to come here. If the regional world was so cushy, why did you leave? You knew exactly what the pay rates/bennies were and what you were getting into, and now that your buddy who is at UAL, DAL, AA, FedEx, UPS, etc. are making a heck of lot more $$$ than you, you feel robbed, right? It's human nature and I totally get it. Really, I do. There are doers and then there's the entitled crowd.... you know, the loud mouth cry babies who won't do jack about their situation. I suggest that you either stay here and make things better or aggressively seek out your dream airline. I would if I were under 40 with less than 5 years on the property.
I'm no company man and this pilot group is weak and dysfunctional, I know. I whine with the best of them but I refuse to feel entitled. I'm here to stay and will do my best to make this place better for ALL pilots. The "association" nor the company will make it happen, so it's up to each of us to make things right. I choose to treat everyone with respect and compassion to the best of my abilities. I know a thing or two about trials and tribulations of life. I busted my a$$ since I was a kid and damn right, I've earned my place in life with a lot of help from the Man above.
Again, crying out of your anus gets you no where, even on a public forum. There are plenty of guys here on the property who've "paid" the price. Just ask the post Kasher survivors and worse yet, the folks who were furloughed. It will always be something, so get used to it.
I won't get into details and start another argument, as some of ya'll just like to pick fights on these boards. EVERYONE paid their dues, whether you were a regional guy or a military bubba. Everyone has a sob story. Quite frankly, I'm tired of these guys who come up to me and tell me, "I didn't f-ing spend xx years at a regional for this". News flash.... no one made you give up your cushy regional job to come here. If the regional world was so cushy, why did you leave? You knew exactly what the pay rates/bennies were and what you were getting into, and now that your buddy who is at UAL, DAL, AA, FedEx, UPS, etc. are making a heck of lot more $$$ than you, you feel robbed, right? It's human nature and I totally get it. Really, I do. There are doers and then there's the entitled crowd.... you know, the loud mouth cry babies who won't do jack about their situation. I suggest that you either stay here and make things better or aggressively seek out your dream airline. I would if I were under 40 with less than 5 years on the property.
I'm no company man and this pilot group is weak and dysfunctional, I know. I whine with the best of them but I refuse to feel entitled. I'm here to stay and will do my best to make this place better for ALL pilots. The "association" nor the company will make it happen, so it's up to each of us to make things right. I choose to treat everyone with respect and compassion to the best of my abilities. I know a thing or two about trials and tribulations of life. I busted my a$$ since I was a kid and damn right, I've earned my place in life with a lot of help from the Man above.
Again, crying out of your anus gets you no where, even on a public forum. There are plenty of guys here on the property who've "paid" the price. Just ask the post Kasher survivors and worse yet, the folks who were furloughed. It will always be something, so get used to it.
04-04-2016, 07:17 PM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,915
There is no point to this thread. Clearly someone just created a new screen and started this thread to flame. Every AS pilot I've come across has been a fine gentleman (and gal once), and look forward to working with you all.
04-04-2016, 07:20 PM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Ejection Seat Test Pilot
Posts: 208
Im one of those senior VX guys. I am however very grateful that I will at atleast have a job since my beautiful wife of 26 years has only a few months to live. She won't be here to see the transition, but atleast she will know her husband can still support her children, get them through college, and hopefully have a great career at AS. I will take a right seat job and pull gear for you sir. I think you will appreciate my 30 years of experience and maybe buy me a beer. That's all I am asking.
04-04-2016, 07:55 PM
#38
New boss = Old boss
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Ca B737
Posts: 2,762
Im one of those senior VX guys. I am however very grateful that I will at atleast have a job since my beautiful wife of 26 years has only a few months to live. She won't be here to see the transition, but atleast she will know her husband can still support her children, get them through college, and hopefully have a great career at AS. I will take a right seat job and pull gear for you sir. I think you will appreciate my 30 years of experience and maybe buy me a beer. That's all I am asking.
04-04-2016, 08:13 PM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Slowly drifting left of course!
Posts: 108
04-04-2016, 09:11 PM
#40
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,947
Oh, irony. Sweet irony. Does that mean "don't put a guy with 60 days on property above a 30 year guy?"
Last edited by Al Czervik; 04-04-2016 at 09:22 PM.
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