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Old 05-17-2016, 06:50 PM
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300 by 2022. No freaking way. I'm not sure it's even possible. It's much more likely we will have 150 737s and 150 EMBs.
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Old 05-17-2016, 06:57 PM
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I will take that bet... 285-310 by 2022. Had a real nice conversation with AH and I think that is really where they want to be 6 years fron now. That would be all firm and all the options over the next 6 years. Also heard we just got positions on 13 more jets I think late this year early next.. Somebody else just cancelled. Everyone around here is so sensitive to good news.. Barry your head in the sand, the world is coming to an end and As will be out of business in 2 years and horizon will be flying 1000 175's!
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Old 05-17-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AKpilot
I agree about RV ...He was an *********. I disagree about BM.... BM is way smarter and more skilled than RV. .
That's what makes him more dangerous to the labor groups. If he has the same mandate as RV, he'll be no less dogged in carrying it out.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:03 AM
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That's what makes him more dangerous to the labor groups. If he has the same mandate as RV, he'll be no less dogged in carrying it out.
True. At least BM will make it real easy to say no to a JCBA. He'll Probably be looking for concessions citing the cost of VX.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:32 AM
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^^^^^Exactly right. Especially since AS grossly overpaid for VX.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:38 AM
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^^^^^Exactly right. Especially since AS grossly overpaid for VX.
UAL and DAL have both thrown more money than that away in share repurchases. At least you got something concrete for the $4B+ in price and debt you had to take on, even if they are just airplane leases. I think your management is smart and it was worth it to stop JetBlue from stealing market share. The only thing that would worry me is the $1.5B in debt that just got added to AS and that the profits from AS will be paying for that for years, because the VX operation isn't going to cover it. That and the likelyhood of the SLI being more favorable to VX just because the union policy is so weighted toward Status and Category, thanks to United and all their "Jumbos" wanting to make sure they did well in any merger.

Other than that, welcome to the world of being an airline pilot, having your career tied to the decisions your management makes, and really having no say in the matter.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AKpilot
I agree about RV ...He was an *********. I disagree about BM.... BM is way smarter and more skilled than RV. I met them both. BM does not have the people skills and charm of BT, but he is very good at operations and systems. They need VX people and A/C to grow and compete. I believe that the powers that be will look at the best parts of both operations and make new airline better than the parts. They can't make any serious plans until the deal closes. The # of VX Airbus a/c is at a critical mass to be profitable. All the other majors run both types. I believe they will wait and see how the combined operation runs before they decide IF they want to go back to one fleet type.

I believe your comment poisons the waters here by spreading angst to the gullible.

It's too early to get crazy about what might happen with the SLI.

Anyone who has studied the history of this industry will know there are cycles of good and bad, expansion and stagnation. These are very good times now. It won't always be this way. There are no guarantees.

There is a lot of BS on these forums and it should only be digested after being highly filtered.
Amen Brother way to many people get wound up buy the trolls and bear pokers on here
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken
With B.M.'s promotion, things are going to get real interesting. He is a ruthless bean counter and he only serves one master-money. Let's hope that we don't go backwards and return to the "Bagley & Ayer era". Think Gestapo, the wife beater.
All the more reason for ALPA to grow a pair this time.......
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:02 PM
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:26 PM
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I think it's time for the pilot group to get on par w virgin, show some pilot unity.
Stop constantly padding Alaskan airways on time record by prematurely releasing the parking brake (haha, gettin paid).
Paid a nickel today, for a settled contract that would be giving you a quarter.
They made a stink about orange lanyards so they could keep the big picture chugging along while everyone focused on some little insignificant thing.
You think United got screwed with bad scope thru bankruptcy years, the air group is going to make that look like child's play, especial with the current no scope.
Pay and retirement is worthless in this situation going forward.
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