pete2800

The fewer lists there are, the better the outcome will be. Accepting a whipsaw scenario in exchange for avoiding a slight seniority hit seems like an exceedingly bad idea...

Arctichicken

If history is an indicator, this pilot group is about to face another huge hurdle once again. With B.M.'s promotion, things are going to get real interesting. He is a ruthless bean counter and he only serves one master-money. Let's hope that we don't go backwards and return to the "Bagley & Ayer era". Think Gestapo, the wife beater.

Mea25000

I heard the company #s are 5,3,1.5,1.5,1.5 very generous indeed!
I need 15,5,5. No 5 year contract for me but I have yet to vote yes now on 3 contracts. The union said Brad was willing to pay to make this go smoothly. Right

Mea25000

What I would like to see written into our contract would be:

Equipment lock: Whatever aircraft you were in April 4, 2016, You are locked into both FO and CA. *FO's can only upgrade on April 4, 2016 awarded equipment.

* the only relief would be if fleet size of either aircraft were to be reduced by more then 10% of April 4, 2016. At which time in reverse seniority order the reduced equipment CA's and FO's could displace to the other aircraft.

- No furlough for any pilot on either seniority list April 4, 2016 for 3 years after DOS
- No Pilot that held CA on either seniority list April 4, 2016 shall be displaced to FO during any period within 3 years of DOS

This would protect VX seniority on the bus and AS seniority on the boeing. Company would love it as it would save in training costs.

If we can get this written into the contract, I would be willing to take what arbitration gives us. Plus I would need that 15,5,5 % raise

Packrat

BM is Ray Vecci all over again. Ask anyone who was on the property in 1992 what Ray did to the operation. VX pilots need to ask the same question. Or just take a look at what he "accomplished" when he took over Station Ops.

Junior VXers need to get their apps out.

Arctichicken

I have heard about Vecci-bad joo joo. Once again, the ball is in management's court. They can either turn this into a good thing or completely screw the pooch. Hopefully history won't repeat itself. These are different times but greed is blinding.

Arctichicken

This is the funniest joke I've heard since the last TA! The sad truth is that we have guys here who'll jump on this deal but then, what's new?

Packrat

Believe me, it was a nightmare. Considering that AS has, what, 75 737s on order, it appears to me that sending the "Coochi" to VX means his mission is to let the Bus leases run out and shut the place down.

AKpilot

I agree about RV ...He was an *********. I disagree about BM.... BM is way smarter and more skilled than RV. I met them both. BM does not have the people skills and charm of BT, but he is very good at operations and systems. They need VX people and A/C to grow and compete. I believe that the powers that be will look at the best parts of both operations and make new airline better than the parts. They can't make any serious plans until the deal closes. The # of VX Airbus a/c is at a critical mass to be profitable. All the other majors run both types. I believe they will wait and see how the combined operation runs before they decide IF they want to go back to one fleet type.

I believe your comment poisons the waters here by spreading angst to the gullible.

It's too early to get crazy about what might happen with the SLI.

Anyone who has studied the history of this industry will know there are cycles of good and bad, expansion and stagnation. These are very good times now. It won't always be this way. There are no guarantees.

There is a lot of BS on these forums and it should only be digested after being highly filtered.

Mea25000

I feel pretty confident AS wants most if not all of the VX airbus fleet. I think it's a better passenger experience and well the pilots have way more space then we do in the Boeing. Pretty sure the 319's will go when there leases are up. Think it's also a pretty easy way to keep all of us from steeping on each other's career expectations by separating by aircraft. The key is both fleets grow and both fleets pay the same. The # I heard was 75 buses and 225 737's by 2022. I know it changes on a Tuesday. But a fleet of 300, I could live with that!