FlyAK

I've been at Alaska 9 years... I suppose waiting another couple years to upgrade so the VX 3 year guys get what they think is theirs is no big deal. I'm nothing if not a gentleman...

Arctichicken

Hopefully you can hold the left seat when the next big bid comes out next month or be forced to be a gentleman. I'm guessing that there'll be a fence for a few years after the deal is complete so guys on the cusp of upgrading will make out okay IMO.

FlyAK

I hope so... But highly doubt it. With the number of 10-12 year guys/girls in Seattle and Portland that have bypassed it might be awhile... 250 or so... We'll see but I think the guys in my seniority range might be in for a second screw job...

FlyAK

If I didn't have almost a decade invested here I'd be tempted to go work for Delta, FedEx, JetBlue, or shoot maybe even Virgin... Probably upgrade quicker at any of those places than Alaska...

svergin

Delta just had a October 2014 hire make 717 Captain in NY. At United we have pilots who came back from furlough in 2013 that are Captains now. Don't know about American.

How long is it taking at AS? How many per year?

FlyAK

Our Jr. Captain was hired before Virgin America was even a thought in Richard Branson's loins... So the answer is it is taking a long time...

Packrat

So sorry, Poker, but your 11 years at UAL/USAir mean nothing in this merger. If you're going to talk longevity it only refers to these two airlines period. On top of that, if you were an Instant Captain in 2007, its most likely that you fought the vote for ALPA at VX tooth and nail. Why? Because you blamed your furlough on ALPA instead of your management where it rightly belonged.

GangtaMoose...How many times do you have to be told that "Career Expectations" ONLY means narrow body vs. wide body. I was on the ALPA BoD when that term replaced DoH in the Merger/Frag policy. And why did that happen? It was during the aborted takeover of USAIR by UAL. The UAL Gorilla MEC wanted to keep USAIR pilots out of their wide body seats.

Any other interpretation of career expectations is a corrupted view.

And let's not forget that with "no bump, no flush" NO ONE who is a current Captain at either airline will lose his seat unless he/she voluntarily bids out of it.

Packrat

And what does any of that have to do with the topic at hand. Go back to the DAL threads and whine about orange lanyards.

EskimoJoe

No JCBA = No Problem. AS guys, bookmark this post. After you get screwed, you can at least reference this point (Pre-JCBA) when you had actual leverage and squandered it at the behest of ALPA National and those among us with those related "aspirations". It will be hind sight and you'll still be screwed forever but... Enjoy those couple of bucks.

FlyAK

I'll vote no all day long if the SLI doesn't work out...