Alaska nearing deal to acquire Virgin America
04-03-2016, 01:00 AM
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Try not to believe everything you hear from a group that got all of the captain seats and gained an average of 8% in relative seniority while we took an average 22% hit. Unless your friends are those that got hired after the Date of Merger announcement and think they should have been put ahead of anyone that was already on property
04-03-2016, 03:20 AM
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Sorry Whacky old chum ,my wife would have made captain this year,she is looking at 5 more years in an albeit lucrative right seat, thanks to the merger, she and I aren't bitter, this biz is what it is, but facts is facts, even if they don't fit your agenda, and by the way we aren't tranny haters, 2 very good friends came along with the merger, one is "meh" about it,the other is very glad to be part of SWA, life goes on. Cheers out.
04-03-2016, 04:53 AM
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I don't know if my upgrade will be pushed back 5 years, but I do know that 750 former AT pilots have dibs on it before I do.
04-03-2016, 04:58 AM
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If there is any if the SLI is relative at all it could be AS pilots furloughed.
04-03-2016, 05:43 AM
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It's not so much that Alaska wants it. They would do it to block JetBlue from being the buyer of Virgin. A JB/VA deal would be a big threat to Alaska.
04-03-2016, 05:46 AM
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Maybe I'm also missing something else, but I don't see a JB/VA being a big threat to Alaska. JB/VA pretty much overlap on all the routes, sure some additional slots/gates, but a big threat to Alaska, I don't buy it. I guess it would get JB into Hawaii, but JB has the HA codeshares and Hawaii is pretty saturated it seems.
04-03-2016, 06:14 AM
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There are a lot of subjects that have to discussed here. One of which is there can be no staple. Second, the language in AS's CBA about M&A. Does it state the Company being AS or AAG? The reason I mention this is, as a former QXer, we were burned by the same such language. If it's with Alaska Airlines, then I believe it's going to tough because VX would be part of AAG. Not part of Alaska Airlines. Another thing is the eventual integration. You can't do relative seniority because there is no way that a 9 year Captain at VX should placed ahead of a 25 year Captain at AS. Date of hire is not really fair either because almost every Captain at VX would be knocked out of there seat. I believe upgrade at AS is around 9 years???
04-03-2016, 06:15 AM
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General question, does a merger or acquisition date ,with regards to contracts and/or ALPA, become effective when a company makes an announcement or after regulatory approval(various govt agencies depending on domestic, international etc) ?
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