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Old 04-04-2016, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Nope. For years AS operated MD-80s, an aircraft brought on the property via the JA merger. In fact, AS was slated to be the first MD-90 operator. That eventually fell through.

To be perfectly frank, the Boelng centricity of AS is now in question. An additional benefit of this merger puts pressure on Boeing to cut the price of the AS book using the threat of switching to the Airbus. Very clever, these Anglers.
I wouldn't call over paying 1.5 billion for an airline clever, hopefully it works out. How much is this pressure going to save them with Boeing?
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:54 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is an acquisition, not a merger. For example AA merged with US as opposed to SW acquiring AirTran.
Aquisitions and mergers are the exact same thing.
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Originally Posted by full of luv
DALs response will be to agree to take whatever castoff airbi that alk choses to dispose of ala Swa-AirTran merger
I wouldn't be so sure, UAL has said they are looking for any used A320/319 on the market now. Hence the 30-40 they're getting from China and Spirit....who knows
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Aquisitions and mergers are the exact same thing.
Proof that you should never take business or financial advice from a pilot.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:05 PM
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This nonsense talk is the first step in the SLI process. Sad, but true.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Aquisitions and mergers are the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by Winston
Proof that you should never take business or financial advice from a pilot.
As far as integrating two pilot groups are concerned, Hockeypilot44 is right. Regardless of how the business transaction is structured, or referred to by Wall Street and the media, the SLI will be a "merger" of the two lists. It's semantics. McCaskill/Bond, or ALPA merger policy, they both lay the groundwork for merging the lists. What the money managers and lawyers do with the business has no bearing.
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I will be very surprised if in two years Alaska will be more then 60 percent of the combined entity.

And I do not mean that to cast aspersions on ANY Alaska or VX employees.

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Old 04-05-2016, 03:26 PM
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Make no mistake.....Alaska Air Group fought hard to prevent Virgin from ever starting....spent millions on that.....This time they paid a premium for the right to kill them.....I would imagine that Alaska Airlines inc will be directed to not back fill retirements for a couple years to bring the combined total down to a number that Alaska Air Group is comfortable with....One can hope not but history shows otherwise
 
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Originally Posted by Aviatorr
I wouldn't be so sure, UAL has said they are looking for any used A320/319 on the market now. Hence the 30-40 they're getting from China and Spirit....who knows
Va arbus' have the wrong engines for ua
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
I wouldn't call over paying 1.5 billion for an airline clever, hopefully it works out.
United paid $3B for Continental that had 348 airplanes (all stock transaction)

Delta paid $2.6B for Northwest that had 320 airplanes (all stock transcation)

Alaska pays $4B for Virgin America that owns 6 planes and leases about 60? Plus is has to give up $2.6B of its cash, which neither Delta nor United had to do since they did a stock only purchase.

What am I missing? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy planes and grow organically into California? An all Boeing airline buys an all Airbus airline?

This whole thing looks nuts.

I wish you all luck.
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