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Old 09-05-2024, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
So there is a recording of the call on teams. I listened to the call and the exact wording for hiring was late in the year 2025 and quarter 4 of 2025. It was said hiring was "possible."

There will be no upgrade or position bids in 2024 or 2025. There could be a bid to rebalance the FOs in SFO. There will be no reduction bids.
That was more or less my take as well. I don't know if you guys are pre-or post "lost decade" or not (I'm too young for 9/11 but old enough for the lost decade), but honestly stagnation is cyclical and not really any surprise for me. Kind of how the ball bounces in this industry. Maybe I'm not making enough of it, but it's just how it goes.

Even if I made more if it, I have no power to change any of it. Make hay while the sun shines so when you inevitably get stuck, you get stuck in a good place. That's the name of the game. That hasn't always been the case for me.
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Old 09-06-2024, 01:06 PM
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That was more or less my take as well. I don't know if you guys are pre-or post "lost decade" or not (I'm too young for 9/11 but old enough for the lost decade), but honestly stagnation is cyclical and not really any surprise for me. Kind of how the ball bounces in this industry. Maybe I'm not making enough of it, but it's just how it goes.

Even if I made more if it, I have no power to change any of it. Make hay while the sun shines so when you inevitably get stuck, you get stuck in a good place. That's the name of the game. That hasn't always been the case for me.
where did you guys find it on teams I was gonna listen to it but can not find the recording
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Old 09-06-2024, 02:03 PM
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where did you guys find it on teams I was gonna listen to it but can not find the recording
I clicked the link that was emailed out for the meeting. There was a follow up that had a time correction. Sent 8/27

I licked that link and there was a recording of the meeting still up on teams. They discuss hiring being a possibility in Q4 almost right away.

If you sit throught the Q&A there are a few tidbits about aircraft deliveries and position bids mixed in with endless questions about uniform policy and beards.
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Old 09-06-2024, 03:42 PM
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beards.
Because that's what's most important to everyone's careers - being allowed to have pubic hair on one's face at work
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Old 09-06-2024, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
I clicked the link that was emailed out for the meeting. There was a follow up that had a time correction. Sent 8/27

I licked that link and there was a recording of the meeting still up on teams. They discuss hiring being a possibility in Q4 almost right away.

If you sit throught the Q&A there are a few tidbits about aircraft deliveries and position bids mixed in with endless questions about uniform policy and beards.
So, what's the verdict on beards?
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Old 09-06-2024, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
I clicked the link that was emailed out for the meeting. There was a follow up that had a time correction. Sent 8/27

I licked that link and there was a recording of the meeting still up on teams. They discuss hiring being a possibility in Q4 almost right away.

If you sit throught the Q&A there are a few tidbits about aircraft deliveries and position bids mixed in with endless questions about uniform policy and beards.
this pilot group (alaska) has such a strange fixation on allowing beards haha
and that way to listen to it worked thanks hombre 🤙
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:11 PM
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If you sit throught the Q&A there are a few tidbits about aircraft deliveries and position bids mixed in with endless questions about uniform policy and beards.
Endless for sure.

Q: Can we use brightline bags?
A: I don't think that counts as a bright zipper. Stop splitting hairs. Those bags are dumb anyway. The only people that have them are the type that split hairs, so I guess it makes sense.

Q: If the hat becomes required, can we get a better one?
A: All hats are bad, so there's no such thing as a "better one." And stop giving them ideas.

I had to pick up the kids from school so I missed the second half of the Q&A, and am now too lazy to go back and listen to it. I won't remember the answer anyway. I trust there were a few more gems in there.
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
So there is a recording of the call on teams. I listened to the call and the exact wording for hiring was late in the year 2025 and quarter 4 of 2025. It was said hiring was "possible."

There will be no upgrade or position bids in 2024 or 2025. There could be a bid to rebalance the FOs in SFO. There will be no reduction bids.

According to the call 11 MAXs have been delivered in 2024. There could be more one response was 4 more and another was 5.

*Keep in mind this is my interpretation of the questions asked on the call.

You know what’s funny, I told everyone on her this back in January and you all laughed.
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Old 09-06-2024, 09:00 PM
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You know what’s funny, I told everyone on her this back in January and you all laughed.
Sorry my only stand out OTZ moments are:

Heckling FOs online about how they were about to lose their jobs come October 2020
We are getting bought by SWA
We are getting bought by UAL
Panic dumping BTC
Betting the farm on Roku (lol)
Shorting the market
49 787s by 2030. A 5X increase in production

I don't really even know what you're referring to this time nor do I recall what you were predicting back in January. Pretty sure you were pumping downgrades when the door popped of 704AL.

I'm going to sleep so I don't really care to dig up that post.
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Old 09-06-2024, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
this pilot group (alaska) has such a strange fixation on allowing beards haha
and that way to listen to it worked thanks hombre 🤙
quick and dirty notes I took away Pilot call notes

HA merger news not sure how long it’ll take no timeline no idea

Flyaways still in beta testing no timing on when it will go public to the pilot group



11 planes this year Maybe 4 more

Hiring no pistol buds this year - maybe a bid to rebalance sfo FOs no. Would add vacancies sfo fo vaccines



Hiring sometime next year later rather than sooner



No sfo downgrades



New PCA hoses in Seattle - supposed to help airflow



New planes next year high 20s to low 30s but Boeing delivery delays they don’t know how many we will actually get next year



Old leather will not be allowed and old VX will not be allowed with the new uniforms



Anc jfk according to DM was a success story. No cancelations no need to bump pax or bags

Profitable route



Brightline bags will be allowed the no color zipper intent was to not allow the VX bag with red zipper
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