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Old 08-28-2024, 06:46 AM
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Copy all. My CJO expires September of 25 so if AS isn't starting anyone until October of 25 I'll be left without a job so I might as well shoot my shot. Was supposed to start this fall according to the last email that was sent to CJO pool in Feb...I get thats not happening but since they have been lost comms since Feb and all the pilots on here seem to think classes won't start for a year, I'm getting nervous.

Regionals won't entertain an interview without signing your life away for 1600pic hrs and the ones that don't require a contract won't touch me with 1800hrs of 737 time because they aren't stupid. Weird hiring environment with this max issue pushing most majors starting dates to late spring early summer.
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Old 08-28-2024, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
I understand HAL has over 100 CJOs in its own pool. Not sure if they merge CJOs while certificates are separate or how that goes down. Apparently Alaska has told us to meet our needs for hiring in the meantime, which makes sense.
I've never heard of CJO's getting anything in an SLI.

CJO's only stand for the original certificate that issued them. When you get hired post merger announcement, it's strict DOH for seniority. You would only be assigned to the certificate that issued the CJO, while the certificates are still separate (it takes a couple years typically to actually merge certs). At least that's how it worked in the past.

If your priority is your domicile location, for family or whatever reason, take a class date with the certificate that's most likely to get you to that base sooner.

Otherwise if you're flexible, take the first class date you can get on either certificate. That will get you the best possible seniority position.
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Old 08-28-2024, 08:11 AM
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CJOs will be DOH once they are on property. They get nothing now as they are not employed...
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Old 08-28-2024, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBeef88
Copy all. My CJO expires September of 25 so if AS isn't starting anyone until October of 25 I'll be left without a job so I might as well shoot my shot. Was supposed to start this fall according to the last email that was sent to CJO pool in Feb...I get thats not happening but since they have been lost comms since Feb and all the pilots on here seem to think classes won't start for a year, I'm getting nervous.

Regionals won't entertain an interview without signing your life away for 1600pic hrs and the ones that don't require a contract won't touch me with 1800hrs of 737 time because they aren't stupid. Weird hiring environment with this max issue pushing most majors starting dates to late spring early summer.
Some reduced lines for Oct and some incentive lines for Nov, no mention of any position bids, no mention of hiring plans. There is an all pilot call next week. I'm also wondering if they are waiting to make any hiring moves until the Hawaiian deal is signed and delivered.
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Old 08-28-2024, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 907ANC
I'm also wondering if they are waiting to make any hiring moves until the Hawaiian deal is signed and delivered.
This is my theory as well. we know demand has softened. So we are obviously staffed at appropriate levels. I think they are going to wait till the dust has settled a little so they can make fleet and staffing plans. Will also have a little better idea the economy and boeing situation.
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Old 09-05-2024, 07:11 AM
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No good news on the hiring outlook.
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Old 09-05-2024, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 907ANC
No good news on the hiring outlook.
Can you expand on this please?
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Old 09-05-2024, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by feelthebern
Can you expand on this please?
The September all pilot call was 2-3 PM yesterday. I'm guessing more realistic (bad) news.
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Old 09-05-2024, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
The September all pilot call was 2-3 PM yesterday. I'm guessing more realistic (bad) news.
even if it was good news what guarantee do we have the good news will actually come to pass? I recall multiple threads and articles talking about crazy hiring number predictions from various airlines. Then they never hire anywhere close to that at the end of the year.

hiring happens when it happens and stops when it stops. The people that make those decisions do so with information that can and does change.

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Old 09-05-2024, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
The September all pilot call was 2-3 PM yesterday. I'm guessing more realistic (bad) news.
I caught a bit of the call before I had to run for the van. DM said no hiring/CA upgrades until late '25 at the earliest. Even seem to say that with trepidaton.

After the VA merger their was a long pause as well. I would guess they want to take account of all the variables in play between the two route structures before making manning decisions.
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