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Old 11-10-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinj79
Best guess, the training department has been clogged up with airbus transition pilots for several months, since they just parked all the A321's. You would not be the only one who got impatient and pursued other options.

But they should be about done with airbus people, and they've said they're hiring many hundreds. I don't know how many applicants are waiting in the wings, or how long it might take to get around to them. I would think not too long, they're short FO's.
Transitions are basically done, the last full class is finishing up. There are applicants in the pool, and hiring projections are slowing for 2024.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinj79
Best guess, the training department has been clogged up with airbus transition pilots for several months, since they just parked all the A321's. You would not be the only one who got impatient and pursued other options.

But they should be about done with airbus people, and they've said they're hiring many hundreds. I don't know how many applicants are waiting in the wings, or how long it might take to get around to them. I would think not too long, they're short FO's.
I think they have already cut the hiring projections in half for next year, and typically they never hire as many as they claim they are going to anyhow.
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PetrolBurner
Hello all, I applied 7 weeks ago, had a meet and greet with a Seattle base Chief Pilot right away that went really well. But then radio silence. I've had a friend who's an Alaska Airlines pilot sponsor me with HR (there's an official process for that.) I still haven't gotten a call to interview and I'm wondering if there's anything left that I can do. Is my lack of 121 and jet time that much of a hurdle or do I just need to stay patient? I have 6500 TT, 4100 METPIC, college degree, instructor pilot at my current job and previous airline and companines and a bunch of other special mission qualifications. Alaska is my top choice but my timeline for the next few months makes me wonder if it's time to start pursuing number 2 and 3 on my personal list.
As someone else said Airbus transitions should be mostly done by now. According the CP on the All Pilot call at the beginning of the month there is no lack of applicants, so it might be taking them a while to get through all of them. Supposedly they are full steam ahead on running new hire classes. I'd start applying wherever you're interested in working and maybe have your contact update your resume with the SEA Base CP.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hydrostream
You're not the only one hearing crickets. I think merlinj79 is right they've been busy transitioning people.
im in the same position, radio silence
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Old 11-16-2023, 08:54 PM
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FWIW to those in limbo,

-Submitted app April 23 via internal link from an Alaska pilot, do this vs general link if you can.
-App status changed in June to under review
-Didn’t hear anything but signed up for the Meet the Chiefs in August 23. Sat down with Portland CP and go over my resume and ask questions. Mini Q&A...why Alaska and tell me about yourself. From there some people were getting the recommendation to interview.
-interviewed September 23, CJO day of, July 24 avail.

Most interviewing were available within 2 months and we were all given DEC/JAN class dates...just a placeholder for me. The stated trend from hiring dept was expect an interview 2-3 months before availability if you meet the hiring mins. Goal in September for "2024 hiring" was 600 pilots but that’s probably going to be reeled in as mentioned above with the market trends. They were optimistic though with transitions finishing up in Nov.

Our interview group was split about half mil have civ with I think a 7/12 selection rate. The non-mil who got the nod were 2 skywest and 1 allegiant and had ATP mins, all had probably 3 years flying with them. Most if not all had recently been to a MTC or Meet and Greet at a conference. The mil pilots who made it were helo bubbas and I may have been the only fixed wing.

No ATP, MEI, CFI/CFII
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Posting this data because it's hard to find data on people who recent went through the hiring machine. From what I hear it's good to have an internal hiring link and a MTC under your belt with an active application.
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Old 11-17-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBeef88
From what I hear it's good to have an internal hiring link and a MTC under your belt with an active application.
I would assume they are trying to sniff out those who might actually be inclined to stay, vice those looking for a type rating on the resume, or to get out from under regional metering.
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Old 11-17-2023, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBeef88

No ATP, MEI, CFI/CFII
Total Time: 1962
Turbine: 1941
ME Turbine: 1858
PIC: 937

Posting this data because it's hard to find data on people who recent went through the hiring machine. From what I hear it's good to have an internal hiring link and a MTC under your belt with an active application.
Thanks for this! Alaska is my destination airline if I can help it. All I'm missing is the 500 hours turbine time for their requirements. Haven't seen anyone post what they've been hired with.
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Old 11-17-2023, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PetrolBurner
Hello all, I applied 7 weeks ago, had a meet and greet with a Seattle base Chief Pilot right away that went really well. But then radio silence. I've had a friend who's an Alaska Airlines pilot sponsor me with HR (there's an official process for that.) I still haven't gotten a call to interview and I'm wondering if there's anything left that I can do. Is my lack of 121 and jet time that much of a hurdle or do I just need to stay patient? I have 6500 TT, 4100 METPIC, college degree, instructor pilot at my current job and previous airline and companines and a bunch of other special mission qualifications. Alaska is my top choice but my timeline for the next few months makes me wonder if it's time to start pursuing number 2 and 3 on my personal list.
You need to be pursuing your top #1 - #x. Not right now...yesterday. If "not #1 hires you first" you go there *unless* you're at the cusp of a known requirement, like upgrade to the left seat/TPIC, getting 500/1000 hrs TPIC, etc. Is your current job your FINAL job is #1, in your case Alaskan, doesn't call you? In that case there's no need to apply to anyone else except #1. But for the VAST majority their #1-x (5? 8?) major 121 choices are better than their current job. Don't take you foot off the gas because airline xyz gave you an interview but an airline lower on your desired list gave you a CJO or class date. Grab it. Keep chasing the jobs higher on your personal list. Get a destination job and continue pursuing higher choices until it doesn't make sense for you to leave ABC for XYZ.

True story - guy I was mentoring. Had wanted to fly for AA since he was a kid. AA gave him a CJO. Delta called. He wasn't going to go there. Why bother, AA had given him a CJO and a class date would follow shortly? I said "go talk to Delta. AA's promise is like a girl at a bar saying she'll be back next week. Uh-uh, we're talking about tonight! Another girl walks over...you holding out for next week's promise or going to deal with today first???" He went to DL. AA started taking back a bunch of furloughs and AA didn't contact him for over a year. He said it was tough turning down AA because for maybe 30 yrs that had been his goal. "But it didn't make any sense to quit DL by then. Delta was too good to me to go to AA and start over." Bingo.
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Old 11-17-2023, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PetrolBurner
Hello all, I applied 7 weeks ago, had a meet and greet with a Seattle base Chief Pilot right away that went really well. But then radio silence. I've had a friend who's an Alaska Airlines pilot sponsor me with HR (there's an official process for that.) I still haven't gotten a call to interview and I'm wondering if there's anything left that I can do. Is my lack of 121 and jet time that much of a hurdle or do I just need to stay patient? I have 6500 TT, 4100 METPIC, college degree, instructor pilot at my current job and previous airline and companines and a bunch of other special mission qualifications. Alaska is my top choice but my timeline for the next few months makes me wonder if it's time to start pursuing number 2 and 3 on my personal list.
Your story has happened over and over and over at Alaska. They're weird that way. People who are well-qualified and well-connected have waited literally years for a call from Alaska. I'm one of them. A few yeas ago, they finally called me for a meet & greet. From that, told me I'd get a call for an interview "in a few weeks". Weeks turned to months. Got an email that said they weren't running any more classes over the summer but would start up again in the fall. Got an email in the fall that said, "Please reapply." I said, "Screw you, I'm done playing this stupid game."

Go with whoever calls you. Don't wait for Alaska. That call may never come.
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Old 11-17-2023, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Crockett
Thanks for this! Alaska is my destination airline if I can help it. All I'm missing is the 500 hours turbine time for their requirements. Haven't seen anyone post what they've been hired with.
If you know any pilots at Alaska, get them to refer you and talk to their CP about you. That will get you the interview.
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