Alaska Air Hiring
03-20-2023, 11:55 AM
#7441
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I think mine was in 6 years or so before I got the call. The eventual trigger (I think) was my buddy dropping my res on the CPs desk. Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
03-20-2023, 12:00 PM
#7442
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Just some thoughts from someone who wanted to make a career at Alaska:
I don't understand Alaska's recruiting mentality. There is nothing particularly special about me as a candidate, but for a company with their attrition problem and stated hiring goals, it makes no sense to me to keep qualified and extremely interested candidates in the dark for months in this environment. I've got an Internal recommendation, attended a MTC event and received an interview recommendation, etc. and I haven't heard a peep from them. And it appears I am not the only one. Even if I did get an interview now, earliest class date is reportedly late fall, which is supposedly because they want to weed out those pilots trying to use Alaska as a stepping stone.
I gave up holding my breath and on Friday I applied to a fractional that I've been eying. I heard back first thing this morning with a phone screening, and they're flying me to HQ tomorrow to interview Wednesday. In stark contrast to Alaska, they are a company that is actually behaving in a way that is consistent with the fact that they need pilots. And their pilots have nothing but good things to say about how they are treated.
I just don't get it. But from what I've been reading over the past couple months, the claims about Alaska management being out of touch with regard to pilots and the current pilot environment seems to be proving itself true. Understaffed such that reports abound of 5-6 year FOs who cant drop or trade trips, yet management is just sitting on a pool of interested applicants but having them wait around...until they get tired of waiting and just go somewhere else? That's their strategy to attract pilots and reduce attrition? In this environment? Yikes.
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, after deep-diving into the pros and cons of every airline out there, I can say that Alaska is somewhere I wanted to be long-term. And as someone in that position, I can say now that I'm becoming turned off to the idea. I feel for the current pilots negatively affected by understaffing because management is driving away people who would otherwise have helped alleviate that problem.
Looking forward to interviewing with a company that wants pilots, because the evidence suggests that Alaska just doesn't need them that bad.
I don't understand Alaska's recruiting mentality. There is nothing particularly special about me as a candidate, but for a company with their attrition problem and stated hiring goals, it makes no sense to me to keep qualified and extremely interested candidates in the dark for months in this environment. I've got an Internal recommendation, attended a MTC event and received an interview recommendation, etc. and I haven't heard a peep from them. And it appears I am not the only one. Even if I did get an interview now, earliest class date is reportedly late fall, which is supposedly because they want to weed out those pilots trying to use Alaska as a stepping stone.
I gave up holding my breath and on Friday I applied to a fractional that I've been eying. I heard back first thing this morning with a phone screening, and they're flying me to HQ tomorrow to interview Wednesday. In stark contrast to Alaska, they are a company that is actually behaving in a way that is consistent with the fact that they need pilots. And their pilots have nothing but good things to say about how they are treated.
I just don't get it. But from what I've been reading over the past couple months, the claims about Alaska management being out of touch with regard to pilots and the current pilot environment seems to be proving itself true. Understaffed such that reports abound of 5-6 year FOs who cant drop or trade trips, yet management is just sitting on a pool of interested applicants but having them wait around...until they get tired of waiting and just go somewhere else? That's their strategy to attract pilots and reduce attrition? In this environment? Yikes.
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, after deep-diving into the pros and cons of every airline out there, I can say that Alaska is somewhere I wanted to be long-term. And as someone in that position, I can say now that I'm becoming turned off to the idea. I feel for the current pilots negatively affected by understaffing because management is driving away people who would otherwise have helped alleviate that problem.
Looking forward to interviewing with a company that wants pilots, because the evidence suggests that Alaska just doesn't need them that bad.
I dont know where you currently work. But I wager you will be less than happy with the QOL of a fractional pilot…That being said I understand that one cant sit around and wait forever for a call.
03-20-2023, 12:57 PM
#7443
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I think mine was in 6 years or so before I got the call. The eventual trigger (I think) was my buddy dropping my res on the CPs desk. Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
03-20-2023, 06:37 PM
#7444
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I think mine was in 6 years or so before I got the call. The eventual trigger (I think) was my buddy dropping my res on the CPs desk. Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
Should try United or delta heard they’re hiring a ton.
03-20-2023, 07:03 PM
#7445
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03-21-2023, 08:52 AM
#7446
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Specifically:
"Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating."
Generations change. I wouldn't wish what happened during the first 20 years of my aviation career on anyone. That was what I was dealt. I am genuinely happy for those who are not being put through was I was put through.
I applied to Alaska when the window first opened in 2011 or 2012. Wasn't hired until 2018. I'm not going to belittle someone for their experience just because I had to wait 7 years for a job at one of my last choices of "major" airlines. Todays frustrating wait is just a blink of an eye compared to yesterdays normal but that is comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not going to take out my frustrations and bad luck on a new FO who just happened to get lucky in terms of when they were born.
"Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating."
Generations change. I wouldn't wish what happened during the first 20 years of my aviation career on anyone. That was what I was dealt. I am genuinely happy for those who are not being put through was I was put through.
I applied to Alaska when the window first opened in 2011 or 2012. Wasn't hired until 2018. I'm not going to belittle someone for their experience just because I had to wait 7 years for a job at one of my last choices of "major" airlines. Todays frustrating wait is just a blink of an eye compared to yesterdays normal but that is comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not going to take out my frustrations and bad luck on a new FO who just happened to get lucky in terms of when they were born.
03-21-2023, 11:33 AM
#7447
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Posts: 274
Specifically:
"Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating."
Generations change. I wouldn't wish what happened during the first 20 years of my aviation career on anyone. That was what I was dealt. I am genuinely happy for those who are not being put through was I was put through.
I applied to Alaska when the window first opened in 2011 or 2012. Wasn't hired until 2018. I'm not going to belittle someone for their experience just because I had to wait 7 years for a job at one of my last choices of "major" airlines. Todays frustrating wait is just a blink of an eye compared to yesterdays normal but that is comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not going to take out my frustrations and bad luck on a new FO who just happened to get lucky in terms of when they were born.
"Sorry they havnt called you after a having your app in for a couple months sounds extremely frustrating."
Generations change. I wouldn't wish what happened during the first 20 years of my aviation career on anyone. That was what I was dealt. I am genuinely happy for those who are not being put through was I was put through.
I applied to Alaska when the window first opened in 2011 or 2012. Wasn't hired until 2018. I'm not going to belittle someone for their experience just because I had to wait 7 years for a job at one of my last choices of "major" airlines. Todays frustrating wait is just a blink of an eye compared to yesterdays normal but that is comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not going to take out my frustrations and bad luck on a new FO who just happened to get lucky in terms of when they were born.
03-21-2023, 12:16 PM
#7448
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Yeah. So that was the sentiment that I think we should keep to ourselves if we want FOs to stick around.
03-21-2023, 12:36 PM
#7449
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Apparently sharing honest feedback isn’t welcome around here, even when acknowledging how good we have it. I guess it would be better if no one said anything and Alaska sits there wondering why they have recruiting and attrition problems.
Last edited by C340; 03-21-2023 at 12:53 PM.
03-21-2023, 01:07 PM
#7450
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Also not jaded or mad when I see a wet atp get hired here, I don’t think most people are. I DO think it’s funny when they start to get mad if the phone isn’t ringing an hour after they apply.
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