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Old 02-04-2023, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C340
Great conversation going on about the seniority thing.

I understand better movement at UA or DL, but as someone who has no 121 experience, would you all take living in base with slower movement over commuting to SFO/LAX/SEA for the entirety of your 35 year career? That’s what it’s kind of coming down to for me.
I commuted for 35 years and I now drive to work for Alaska. I would go back to commuting in a heartbeat for DAL or UAL in SFO, LAX or SLC. Plus with DAL you have the opportunity to be SEA based with much better QOL with DAL than you will ever get at AS. If I wasn’t locked into 12 year Captain pay and only 5 years left, I’d do it now.
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Old 02-04-2023, 10:40 PM
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Normal stagnation that comes with a fleet drawdown. There is also a decent( 2 previous VP’s claimed 9-12%) bump in efficiency and a staffing efficiency with only one fleet to cover reserve on. Last time it lasted 4 years with the MD-80 drawdown. Some other side effects occurred as well. Hard to know how this drawdown goes….
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Old 02-04-2023, 10:41 PM
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With the announcement in October or November adjust those options to firm that’s currently the order on the books. Take all that info for what it’s worth
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Old 02-05-2023, 05:47 AM
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10 pilots per plane ? I think it was more like 12.5 with the old contract and running incredibly lean, burning out reserves every month.

I’ve been told the new model is closer to 14. So add another 260 to your projections (or one year of current attrition) that we need to hire and retain.
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
Can we grow by 620 pilots ( assuming 10 pilots per plane) in 3 years? With the people I talk to on line and seeing the unions hiring vs attrition chart. no, we can not staff 62 new airplanes. so that’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
There is no way in hell that is happening. With 20+ people leaving a month due to attrition, that'd be 620 growth + 720 attrition = 1340 pilot hired in 3 years. Prepare for some disappointment.
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Old 02-05-2023, 10:16 AM
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From the earnings call:

For the full year, we expect revenue to be up 8% to 10% on flat unit revenue. Our 8% to 10% growth in 2023 will continue to focus on deepening the connections of our network while growing the Pacific Northwest and restoring California. Approximately 2/3 of our growth will be focused in the Pacific Northwest and 1/3 in California and will not be overly dilutive to our yields as much of it will be added to our strongest markets where demand exceeded supply in 2022. Importantly, 85% of growth comes from increased gauge and stage. This is the most efficient capacity growth of any year that I can recall at Alaska Airlines.
So mostly just trading small planes for big planes, not growing the fleet.

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So mostly just trading small planes for big planes, not growing the fleet.

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according to the 10-q 2023 has a net of 17 new planes but looking at the order sheet it’s 35 max 9s and 5 max8 so that’s gonna depend if Boeing gets all those planes out on time…they do not have a great track recored of on time deliveries
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Old 02-05-2023, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by C340
Great conversation going on about the seniority thing.

I understand better movement at UA or DL, but as someone who has no 121 experience, would you all take living in base with slower movement over commuting to SFO/LAX/SEA for the entirety of your 35 year career? That’s what it’s kind of coming down to for me.
it all depends on your personality and priorities. For ME, living in base it worth slower movement because of what i gain. More time at home less stress getting to and from work not having to sit on a GD airplane after working them for days and many more. I hated commuting, Even an easy one sucks to me. Some people do it and dont mind... Im not one of those. Again everyone is different.
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Old 02-05-2023, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by C340
Great conversation going on about the seniority thing.

I understand better movement at UA or DL, but as someone who has no 121 experience, would you all take living in base with slower movement over commuting to SFO/LAX/SEA for the entirety of your 35 year career? That’s what it’s kind of coming down to for me.
Depends on the individual and circumstances.

Married with kids STRONGLY favors living in base, even better it's your hometown with family/friend support network.

But it's worth having a discussion with wifey about permanently moving to a legacy base... the extra money vs. AS if you live in base and upgrade aggressively at a top-tier airline is probably closer to eight figures then to seven figures, considering the time value of money. Maybe even without the time value of money.

From where I sit (done a variety of commutes), about the only situation where I'd commute for 30+ years was if I had no kids, was not going to have them, and wanted to live way off the grid, cabin in the mountains, Fiji, Cabo, South America, etc. If I just wanted to live in a city, I'd move to base.
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Old 02-06-2023, 06:44 PM
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Hey! This is completely off topic but I’m starting in a month or two and have a new hire question I was hoping someone might have the answer to:
Does Alaska partner with any childcare agencies or can you get any childcare discounts through Alaska?
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