Alaska Air Hiring
12-22-2022, 11:34 AM
#7241
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 21
Probably you can be based there very quickly out of training. LAX was offered on the last few new hire classes that I’m aware of. Bidding is by age with oldest in class getting the first pick. Even if you don’t get LAX out of training you can most certainly get it in the next vacancy.
12-22-2022, 12:29 PM
#7242
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 279
I have always thought of Alaska as a place I would like to make a career, from the guys I used to fly with - all being sub 1 year at Alaska right now - the majority have shared they plan to depart as soon as they get the call from UA/DL/AA. The primary reasons shared with me were
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
12-22-2022, 02:26 PM
#7244
What's a weekend?
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Widget FO
Posts: 465
I have always thought of Alaska as a place I would like to make a career, from the guys I used to fly with - all being sub 1 year at Alaska right now - the majority have shared they plan to depart as soon as they get the call from UA/DL/AA. The primary reasons shared with me were
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
12-22-2022, 08:12 PM
#7245
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 200
I have always thought of Alaska as a place I would like to make a career, from the guys I used to fly with - all being sub 1 year at Alaska right now - the majority have shared they plan to depart as soon as they get the call from UA/DL/AA. The primary reasons shared with me were
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
I have personally reconsidered my application at Alaska after hearing these experiences. If it was just one or two people I'd think twice but it seems to be a regular theme among a lot of guys and gals lately. Really hope your management can get things on track and make AS a desired career destination, but from the sounds of things from the folks on here who (claim to) actually work at AS I shouldn't hold my breath.
12-22-2022, 09:25 PM
#7246
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 117
the majority have shared they plan to depart as soon as they get the call from UA/DL/AA. The primary reasons shared with me were
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
- The contract did not hit the mark they expected in this current environment which is now appearing to be somewhat accurate based on what is being offered elsewhere.
And at Delta, American, and United, when they get new contracts, those won't hit the mark they set, either. Everybody will always find something to complain about. It's never enough.
- Too much of a "Its the way we have always done it" attitude.
Don't go somewhere and think you're going to change the company. If you want to instantly drive me nuts, just start a sentence with, "Well, at Brand X, we..." Yeah - I don't care. You're not at Brand X anymore. A company does things the way they do them because that's the way they do them until there is a good reason to do it a different way. And absolutely every company does dumb things for historically dumb reasons. The bigger they are, the more and the dumber those things get. That's just the way of the world.
- And the encouragement from a lot of the captains they fly with to get out for somewhere else asap.
Airline pilots love feeling like they're saving you from yourself by telling you not to make the same "mistakes" they made. Never mind that they're making stupid money for working less than six months a year at one of the easiest jobs on the planet.
I guarantee you that there are at least as many unhappy people at United/Delta/American as there are at Alaska, if not more, because they all have four times the number of pilots as Alaska. Airline pilots are just a congenitally unhappy bunch who don't know how good they've got it because they're busy worrying about what everybody else is getting. So do what you want to do and don't worry yourself about what anyone else thinks of it.
12-23-2022, 05:48 AM
#7247
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 290
And at Delta, American, and United, when they get new contracts, those won't hit the mark they set, either. Everybody will always find something to complain about. It's never enough.
Don't go somewhere and think you're going to change the company. If you want to instantly drive me nuts, just start a sentence with, "Well, at Brand X, we..." Yeah - I don't care. You're not at Brand X anymore. A company does things the way they do them because that's the way they do them until there is a good reason to do it a different way. And absolutely every company does dumb things for historically dumb reasons. The bigger they are, the more and the dumber those things get. That's just the way of the world.
Airline pilots love feeling like they're saving you from yourself by telling you not to make the same "mistakes" they made. Never mind that they're making stupid money for working less than six months a year at one of the easiest jobs on the planet.
I guarantee you that there are at least as many unhappy people at United/Delta/American as there are at Alaska, if not more, because they all have four times the number of pilots as Alaska. Airline pilots are just a congenitally unhappy bunch who don't know how good they've got it because they're busy worrying about what everybody else is getting. So do what you want to do and don't worry yourself about what anyone else thinks of it.
Don't go somewhere and think you're going to change the company. If you want to instantly drive me nuts, just start a sentence with, "Well, at Brand X, we..." Yeah - I don't care. You're not at Brand X anymore. A company does things the way they do them because that's the way they do them until there is a good reason to do it a different way. And absolutely every company does dumb things for historically dumb reasons. The bigger they are, the more and the dumber those things get. That's just the way of the world.
Airline pilots love feeling like they're saving you from yourself by telling you not to make the same "mistakes" they made. Never mind that they're making stupid money for working less than six months a year at one of the easiest jobs on the planet.
I guarantee you that there are at least as many unhappy people at United/Delta/American as there are at Alaska, if not more, because they all have four times the number of pilots as Alaska. Airline pilots are just a congenitally unhappy bunch who don't know how good they've got it because they're busy worrying about what everybody else is getting. So do what you want to do and don't worry yourself about what anyone else thinks of it.
12-23-2022, 09:22 AM
#7248
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 269
And at Delta, American, and United, when they get new contracts, those won't hit the mark they set, either. Everybody will always find something to complain about. It's never enough.
Don't go somewhere and think you're going to change the company. If you want to instantly drive me nuts, just start a sentence with, "Well, at Brand X, we..." Yeah - I don't care. You're not at Brand X anymore. A company does things the way they do them because that's the way they do them until there is a good reason to do it a different way. And absolutely every company does dumb things for historically dumb reasons. The bigger they are, the more and the dumber those things get. That's just the way of the world.
Airline pilots love feeling like they're saving you from yourself by telling you not to make the same "mistakes" they made. Never mind that they're making stupid money for working less than six months a year at one of the easiest jobs on the planet.
I guarantee you that there are at least as many unhappy people at United/Delta/American as there are at Alaska, if not more, because they all have four times the number of pilots as Alaska. Airline pilots are just a congenitally unhappy bunch who don't know how good they've got it because they're busy worrying about what everybody else is getting. So do what you want to do and don't worry yourself about what anyone else thinks of it.
Don't go somewhere and think you're going to change the company. If you want to instantly drive me nuts, just start a sentence with, "Well, at Brand X, we..." Yeah - I don't care. You're not at Brand X anymore. A company does things the way they do them because that's the way they do them until there is a good reason to do it a different way. And absolutely every company does dumb things for historically dumb reasons. The bigger they are, the more and the dumber those things get. That's just the way of the world.
Airline pilots love feeling like they're saving you from yourself by telling you not to make the same "mistakes" they made. Never mind that they're making stupid money for working less than six months a year at one of the easiest jobs on the planet.
I guarantee you that there are at least as many unhappy people at United/Delta/American as there are at Alaska, if not more, because they all have four times the number of pilots as Alaska. Airline pilots are just a congenitally unhappy bunch who don't know how good they've got it because they're busy worrying about what everybody else is getting. So do what you want to do and don't worry yourself about what anyone else thinks of it.
+1 for this post.
12-23-2022, 01:24 PM
#7249
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 71
I'm slowly planning on sailing off into the sunset in a few years. After spending over a couple of decades flying for the puzzle palace, I can't say I've grown to love this place. It's been a paycheck and with a few tricks, I've made this place work. Speaking to friends at the big three, SWA, FedEx & UPS, they all seem to be fairly happy. No gig is perfect but the eskimo lags behind these carriers in just about every aspect and sadly, it always will. Big iron vs. narrow body, PNW base, family culture, commuting, to name a few, are no longer valid arguments for coming to Alaska. Unless you want to be PDX based and drive to work, I'd look elsewhere. Some on this forum may call guys like me the "angry 30" but I don't sugar coat a turd and sell it as Godiva. Choose wisely.
Rose colored glasses aside, it seems like the common theme is that this place is a stepping stone unless you want to retire living in PDX and that I will be giving up “seven figures” if I stay here for the next 38 years. Tough to determine if this is hyperbole or the reality of retiring here.
Regardless, I am stoked to be here and the experience has been very positive so far!
12-23-2022, 02:35 PM
#7250
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 486
As a new hire this is sad to read. My only exposure has been to the school house, but it seems like most guys here are very cool and down to earth. I feel lucky to be here due to my lack of experience.
Rose colored glasses aside, it seems like the common theme is that this place is a stepping stone unless you want to retire living in PDX and that I will be giving up “seven figures” if I stay here for the next 38 years. Tough to determine if this is hyperbole or the reality of retiring here.
Regardless, I am stoked to be here and the experience has been very positive so far!
Rose colored glasses aside, it seems like the common theme is that this place is a stepping stone unless you want to retire living in PDX and that I will be giving up “seven figures” if I stay here for the next 38 years. Tough to determine if this is hyperbole or the reality of retiring here.
Regardless, I am stoked to be here and the experience has been very positive so far!
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