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It's a strategic blunder to have waited 3 years of stalled negotiations, now to be cramming it through just before UAL and DAL get their TAs done.
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I don't know how you can feel good about that when United's notorious Tumi TA was at $327. It was so embarrassing that they didn't even finish the vote.
This only affirms my opinion that we should be sitting on our hands. The next round of contracts coming out of the big 3 will blow 318 out of the water.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust your opinion in these matters. You've got a long track record of working harder for less, and being proud of it.
This only affirms my opinion that we should be sitting on our hands. The next round of contracts coming out of the big 3 will blow 318 out of the water.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust your opinion in these matters. You've got a long track record of working harder for less, and being proud of it.
QOL, Schedule Flexibility, and Scope are hugely important, and I'm sure the NC is championing the cause on those fronts, but wrt to pay rates, "NO MORE DISCOUNTS!!".
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No. You never know if the next asteroid impact, nuclear war, etc is around the corner. Wait long enough and you'll be negotiating while they furlough. Times are good, lock it in.
Me too clause.
Me too clause.
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I don't know how you can feel good about that when United's notorious Tumi TA was at $327. It was so embarrassing that they didn't even finish the vote.
This only affirms my opinion that we should be sitting on our hands. The next round of contracts coming out of the big 3 will blow 318 out of the water.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust your opinion in these matters. You've got a long track record of working harder for less, and being proud of it.
This only affirms my opinion that we should be sitting on our hands. The next round of contracts coming out of the big 3 will blow 318 out of the water.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust your opinion in these matters. You've got a long track record of working harder for less, and being proud of it.
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Inflation adjust of the old ARBITRATED and DISCOUNTED rate is about $313. Company probably knows that coming in under inflation is an automatic failed TA and and a new CEO. The CEO will throw money at the pilots for only one reason: to save his own arse, and it looks like he's in checkmate for that now.
Pretty sure the NC is shooting for more than inflation
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Like I said, the devil is in the details. And given ALA ALPA's previous contracts, they tend to let loopholes slide. I expect an Alaska Contract "me too" clause to be very limited. It would be better to wait.
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How long do you want to wait? Five years? How about eight, even better, you can piggyback off the NEXT legacy cycle. Why settle for this cycle
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BS. I said get all of the goodies NOW, and protect pay with a me too clause. You're the one advocating years more of alaska discount with NO CONTRACT, likely followed by eventually negotiating in a downturn.
How long do you want to wait? Five years? How about eight, even better, you can piggyback off the NEXT legacy cycle. Why settle for this cycle![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
How long do you want to wait? Five years? How about eight, even better, you can piggyback off the NEXT legacy cycle. Why settle for this cycle
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Alaska management is sh*tting themselves because they know what's coming down the pike. They are desperate to lock in 18% because they know after the big 3 get deals next year they'll have to pay 30%.
But as long as there are suckers who yell "TAKE IT!" at the first opportunity, then we'll always be one step behind.
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UAL is 2 months away from TA2. DAL is right behind them. AAL is giving pay raises to match outside of negotiations.
Alaska management is sh*tting themselves because they know what's coming down the pike. They are desperate to lock in 18% because they know after the big 3 get deals next year they'll have to pay 30%.
But as long as there are suckers who yell "TAKE IT!" at the first opportunity, then we'll always be one step behind.
Alaska management is sh*tting themselves because they know what's coming down the pike. They are desperate to lock in 18% because they know after the big 3 get deals next year they'll have to pay 30%.
But as long as there are suckers who yell "TAKE IT!" at the first opportunity, then we'll always be one step behind.
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