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flysnoopy76 07-11-2022 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by NellyAir (Post 3458572)
I’m sure Alaska has a number of QOL issues, their total compensation could be better when compared with other majors, etc. There’s plenty of info on this thread about improvements that could be made. But I work at Skywest, we have the exact same issues, and make 1/2 to 1/3 of the pay. Alaska is still a big step up, as some others mentioned in this forum

I wouldn’t count on that, pay and 401k for sure, the rest, likely the same or worse.

VanDriver208 07-11-2022 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3458311)
Also whats currently the most junior base, Seattle or elsewhere?

Most new hires are getting Seattle, but there have been classes where some got PDX and ANC in training. Just depends on what the company needs at that particular moment. Sounds like the SFO 737 base is going to be relatively junior as well...

All Bizniz 07-11-2022 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by NellyAir (Post 3458572)
I’m sure Alaska has a number of QOL issues, their total compensation could be better when compared with other majors, etc. There’s plenty of info on this thread about improvements that could be made. But I work at Skywest, we have the exact same issues, and make 1/2 to 1/3 of the pay. Alaska is still a big step up, as some others mentioned in this forum

It's a question of degrees, but they're both bad, as you acknowledged.

If you went over to AS, it sounds like you know better and wouldn't go down that road. I bet you however, that there are a few who will look at the situation and decide that they don't need to participate in the fight for an industry standard contract because, well, "Alaska is a big step up".

FreqFlyer 07-11-2022 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 3458687)
Most new hires are getting Seattle, but there have been classes where some got PDX and ANC in training. Just depends on what the company needs at that particular moment. Sounds like the SFO 737 base is going to be relatively junior as well...

Thanks for the info! Any idea if they are going to continue interviews/hiring throughout summer?

9mikemike 07-11-2022 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by NellyAir (Post 3458572)
I’m sure Alaska has a number of QOL issues, their total compensation could be better when compared with other majors, etc. There’s plenty of info on this thread about improvements that could be made. But I work at Skywest, we have the exact same issues, and make 1/2 to 1/3 of the pay. Alaska is still a big step up, as some others mentioned in this forum

No one debates the step-up leaving Skywest for Alaska. No doubt the hourly pay is better and prob the 401K is better…Some hotels may be better….Better to come here eyes-wide-open than eyes-wide-shut….lots of cheerleaders here of all seniority ranges…cool to date a cheerleader…not cool to get life and career advice from one

tommy2times 07-11-2022 09:48 AM

What airline would Alaska be in par with (same level)? For example better than ULCC Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier, cargo and or ACMI. Asking for a friend.
Thanks

speedbird85 07-11-2022 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 3458745)
What airline would Alaska be in par with (same level)? For example better than ULCC Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier, cargo and or ACMI. Asking for a friend.
Thanks

LEGACY - AA, UAL, DAL
MAJOR - *AS*, SWA, maybe B6
ULCC - F9, NK, G4

flysnoopy76 07-11-2022 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 3458745)
What airline would Alaska be in par with (same level)? For example better than ULCC Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier, cargo and or ACMI. Asking for a friend.
Thanks

At this point it’s probably below Spirit and Frontier, pay might be a couple dollars more at Alaska but the work rules and quality of life is what kills you at Alaska. Reserve rules are probably worse than many regionals nowadays.
The management at Alaska has been bragging about our 5 year upgrade which will be rapidly increasing as the senior Airbus pilots get displaced to the Boeing. Pretty sure you can upgrade anywhere faster other than maybe Southwest. Alaska will probably be closer to 6-7 years for upgrade eventually and that’s still assuming that 2-3 hundred FOs continue to bypass.

9mikemike 07-11-2022 11:00 AM

“Upgrade” is the worst measure of an airlines quality…As a new hire at Alaska I flew with guys who caught a 3.5 year upgrade. I made lt in seven years but was downgraded for 3..Pilots right behind me waited 12 years for the first possible upgrade. Structurally, with a single fleet type we will settle in to a 7-10 year upgrade cycle.

flysnoopy76 07-11-2022 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3458779)
“Upgrade” is the worst measure of an airlines quality…As a new hire at Alaska I flew with guys who caught a 3.5 year upgrade. I made lt in seven years but was downgraded for 3..Pilots right behind me waited 12 years for the first possible upgrade. Structurally, with a single fleet type we will settle in to a 7-10 year upgrade cycle.

This is true, I guess my point was that in addition to being better options for pilots than Alaska, United, Delta, American, etc. all have shorter upgrade times on comparable equipment.


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