ChickenFinger

What, naive to not want to be a miserable soul? Naive to knowing this is a job, and work does not define who I am? Naive that I like my coworkers, and not afraid to say on here that it can be a good place to work with better work rules and a proper contract…which we will eventually get..

Ok bro..

CordovaCA

Are there hundreds of Delta/SWA/UAL pilot quitting and coming TO Alaska and giving personal testimony as to how much better they now have after switching? Because the reverse is true. Let me know of a few thanks!

flysnoopy76

Getting a good contract is not a given, even with high turnouts for the picket and strike vote. While I’m pleased that the union feels there is progress, there is a long way to go. For me, anything put out as a TA without SIGNIFICANTLY improved work rules particularly for reserves is a no vote.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the company’s recent appearances at the negotiating table is nothing more than an attempt to show the mediator they are negotiating in good faith, but that they have no intention of agreeing to any meaningful improvements in the near future. The coming recession / downturn makes it favorable to them to slow play things.

echelon

You're not naive for liking your coworkers and having a life, you dunce, you're naive for repeating trite, pointless, nonsense like this while thinking you're actually saying something. Gary, Indiana COULD be a great place to live. I COULD solve the unified field theory. Alaska COULD be a great place to work where QOL and career satisfaction rivals every other major, but right now IT ISN'T!! By saying that "we're only a contract away from this being a great place," and, "this could be a good place to work if there were work rules," you're really just saying that this currently ISN'T a good place to work, and yet you seem intent on contradicting yourself by also claiming that that hypothetical potential to be a great place to work invalidates the complaints about working here now. This is a hiring thread and you're telling people to come here based on the totally uninformed HOPE that things will improve significantly in a hurry. And you're naive for basing that hope on the idea that "unity" and "resolve" and a single strike are meaningful in a tangible way, and for basically "yada yada-ing" the part where we have to actually climb the mountain, starting from almost the very bottom. A TA doesn't even exist so you can't know what's in it, and yet you're so convinced that this purely hypothetical contract is going to fundamentally change what it's like to work here that you're comfortable trying to convince other people of that. How about you wait and see what's actually in a TA before you conclude that it will be game changing?

I was told in 2017 on the hotel bus in LAX by an Alaska pilot that, "you guys are really going to like it here, we have a very strong, mature, contract." That guy obviously thought that the contract then was a "proper contract."

ExFokkerFlyer

You really that dense? Not meant as an insult, just a question.

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ChickenFinger

Dude, literally everything I say and have said goes right over your head.

The point I have been getting at is it’s all doom & gloom on this forum, yet that’s not how it is out flying the line. The VAST majority are optimistic things will get better here. Sure there are a few miserable souls like yourself, but that is very few and far between.

I feel that does pertain to a hiring thread…if you don’t, well think skip over my posts, and continue to live in your misery.

ChickenFinger

You said it, not me…

ExFokkerFlyer

Ok. So you are, I'll use smaller words next time. At least you didn't fall back on "I'm rubber, you're glue.."

This was a fractured (no unity) pilot group just a few years ago. Mistrust, misunderstanding, and often general dislike prevailed (we didn't like each other) Then, just months ago, all those people who did not agree on a thing just a couple years ago voted to give strike authorization (that means "yes").

The only way to get 3000 people that didn't trust each other a couple years ago to agree to that extent means a bad contract, management, working conditions.

But I bet that went over your head too. Guess you are a yes vote already.

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GUFN

Who is the whiner, now?

BTW, name checks.

ChickenFinger

Again…more calling out, intimidation, & bullying for doing nothing but saying this can be an ok place to work, being positive about a new contract, and really liking my coworkers.

Y’all are truly unbelievable…