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Old 04-29-2022, 11:28 PM
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They didn't know who the mediator was going to be prior to filing. Doesn't he have some say in how long this drags out? And the company has already taken a position that we are at, or near, an impasse.

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That’s precisely my point. This process CAN (and is required) to lead to an impasse, cooling, and strike. So why would they have filed first? If the goal is drag out as long as possible, why not let the direct negotiations continue until ALPA gets fed up and files for mediation? They could have dragged this out for even more time. I don’t recall the union saying they were going to file for NMB negotiations. In fact, it sounded like they were caught off guard and surprised the company filed.
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Old 04-30-2022, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blip
So to get into a base that doesn't have any additions you need to be bumped out of another base?
He guys answered perfectly. There's also another Alaska only forum where questions like this are answered all the time. It's a great resource. Ask around.

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Old 04-30-2022, 05:43 AM
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So to get into a base that doesn't have any additions you need to be bumped out of another base?
Yes. At any US airline I know of, you cannot arbitrarily bump a junior person out of seat/equipment/base any time you want just because you're senior. Not fair to someone who moves to base, buys a house, establishes wife and kids in job/schools, etc.

If you get bumped, either by company reductions or a senior pilot, then you can bump anyone anywhere if they're junior to you.

If you really want something, better grab it at the first available opening... otherwise there may not be another opening for a while, possibly a long while.
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Old 04-30-2022, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes. At any US airline I know of, you cannot arbitrarily bump a junior person out of seat/equipment/base any time you want just because you're senior. Not fair to someone who moves to base, buys a house, establishes wife and kids in job/schools, etc.

If you get bumped, either by company reductions or a senior pilot, then you can bump anyone anywhere if they're junior to you.

If you really want something, better grab it at the first available opening... otherwise there may not be another opening for a while, possibly a long while.
I miss my regional where there were monthly position bids and they wouldn't put new hires in senior bases. Why don't majors have that? Just because they're bigger isn't a good reason, it makes them a lot less flexible having only two bids a year. Yes I'm going to look for that other forum
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Old 04-30-2022, 08:46 AM
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I miss my regional where there were monthly position bids and they wouldn't put new hires in senior bases. Why don't majors have that? Just because they're bigger isn't a good reason, it makes them a lot less flexible having only two bids a year. Yes I'm going to look for that other forum
Yes, many shops have a carve out for new hire assignments, so yes a junior pilot could hold a position that you didn't get to bid for in that case. Yes I liked the way OO did it monthly.
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Old 04-30-2022, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Blip
I miss my regional where there were monthly position bids and they wouldn't put new hires in senior bases. Why don't majors have that? Just because they're bigger isn't a good reason, it makes them a lot less flexible having only two bids a year. Yes I'm going to look for that other forum
Throw in an app at great Texas 73 operator. You’ll have the base you want in no time, and the flexibility in schedules like you wouldn’t believe. The best part is they even have Dr. Pepper on board, no boxed water bull crap.
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Old 04-30-2022, 11:53 AM
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Throw in an app at great Texas 73 operator. You’ll have the base you want in no time, and the flexibility in schedules like you wouldn’t believe. The best part is they even have Dr. Pepper on board, no boxed water bull crap.
No boxed water is the best part?
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Old 04-30-2022, 12:34 PM
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I like my boxed water with extra cardboard pulp
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No boxed water is the best part?
No no. It's the diabeetus. That's the best part.
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Old 04-30-2022, 07:24 PM
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Throw in an app at great Texas 73 operator. You’ll have the base you want in no time, and the flexibility in schedules like you wouldn’t believe. The best part is they even have Dr. Pepper on board, no boxed water bull crap.

Heard a SWA newhire class was supposed to have 40, only 11 showed up. These problems are spreading to everyone except the big 3.
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