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Old 04-01-2022, 07:21 AM
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Predictable play by the company, hopefully the union communication guys are out ahead of this crap from the company and making it clear why these flights are canceling.
Id expect a large Airbus displacement bid to appear later today with no SFO base, my guess is, as has been mentioned, it’s being saved for today.
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Old 04-01-2022, 07:24 AM
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Agreee. This afternoon is probably beat into submission and kill the unity/morale generated at the picket day at Angle Lake.
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Predictable play by the company, hopefully the union communication guys are out ahead of this crap from the company and making it clear why these flights are canceling.
Id expect a large Airbus displacement bid to appear later today with no SFO base, my guess is, as has been mentioned, it’s being saved for today.
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Old 04-01-2022, 07:58 AM
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Agreee. This afternoon is probably beat into submission and kill the unity/morale generated at the picket day at Angle Lake.
Duck em. Everything they have tried has just ****ed us off more and unified us further. That stupid ploy will backfire just like the rest.
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Old 04-01-2022, 09:09 AM
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We don’t but Alaska does a good job of making sure the other workgroups think their problems are based on “pilot greed.” My favorite is the gate agent who on a company page commented that we are all “greedy bastages ” lol.

you’re right, legal action for sure, but Alaska seems to think they can skirt around RLA rules that aren’t convenient for them.
legally nothing they can do, public and company perception is their goal
Yeah, that’ll get left up there for all to see, but try posting a question they don’t like or saying the same thing about management and not only will it not see the light of day… just might get ya fired. Water Cooler = Propaganda Forum

”Do the Right Thing” …. (When convenient.)

Check out all the comments on their FB page from customers. Not sure they’re buying the whole “We care a lot.” line.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:59 AM
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I support the Alaska pilots 100%. I hope you get a good contract.

In the "company misinformation" department, one of the local Portland papers reported that the average captain at Alaska makes $341,000 per year. I can't believe that this is anywhere close to average. Even a super-senior check airman trolling premium pay would have to work his/her tail off to get anywhere near this figure. An example of "management math"?
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Old 04-01-2022, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DashAviator
I support the Alaska pilots 100%. I hope you get a good contract.

In the "company misinformation" department, one of the local Portland papers reported that the average captain at Alaska makes $341,000 per year. I can't believe that this is anywhere close to average. Even a super-senior check airman trolling premium pay would have to work his/her tail off to get anywhere near this figure. An example of "management math"?
They likely included 401k contributions, medical benefits, layover hotels...and probably our "first class (equivalent)" crew meals.
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Old 04-02-2022, 05:59 AM
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If the CO is saying average CA is 340k a year, and it is clearly not, your NC should use it as leverage. ALPA counters in section 6 with a compensation section that would in fact get the average CA pay to 340k a year.

Company will say no that’s too much. ALPA says but you are already at that number allegedly so if you were lying before, and what is the real average?
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Old 04-02-2022, 07:40 AM
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If the CO is saying average CA is 340k a year, and it is clearly not, your NC should use it as leverage. ALPA counters in section 6 with a compensation section that would in fact get the average CA pay to 340k a year.

Company will say no that’s too much. ALPA says but you are already at that number allegedly so if you were lying before, and what is the real average?
100% hopefully with yesterday and the shooting down of 200% PP this shows the company we will not settle and for the first time in a long time I’m feeling optimistic I think the tide is tiring into the pilot groups favor
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Old 04-02-2022, 11:16 AM
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100% hopefully with yesterday and the shooting down of 200% PP this shows the company we will not settle and for the first time in a long time I’m feeling optimistic I think the tide is tiring into the pilot groups favor
Remember when the union refused to bend on uniforms?

Now is why that matters. It’s simply a brick in the wall. The picket yesterday was another brick. The no 200% was another. This fort will not build itself. Keep up the great work!
 
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
They likely included 401k contributions, medical benefits, layover hotels...and probably our "first class (equivalent)" crew meals.

If you count 401k DC and bonuses it might not be far off. In fairness, almost nobody outside of major airlines gets 15% DC.

Of course by the same metric the other legacies make a good bit more...
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