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Old 07-14-2021, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NotTellin
Until Horizon replaces all inter Alaska flying. SCOPE NOW!
Realistically, 8-18 months for ANC and PDX. Maybe sooner, but that would be my best guess.

The boogieman isn’t real, but QX will likely continue to grow up there. The base will likely stay about its current size over the next 3 years. At that point, ANC likely becomes the most senior AS base… pretty crazy, it was the junior base most of my career
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Old 07-14-2021, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
How long to hold ANC? How much lower 48 flying do ANC pilots do outside of the west coast? Any Hawaii flying?

The most JR FO in ANC was hired in January 2019. If the base continues to stagnate you’ll never get in. I don’t see people leaving ANC. QX is slowly flying most of the ANC base routes. So I doubt this base will grow. You can do the math…

ANC pilots do fly to Hawaii.

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Old 07-14-2021, 07:34 PM
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The most JR FO in ANC was hired in January 2019. If the base continues to stagnate you’ll never get in. I don’t see people leaving ANC. QX is slowly flying most of the ANC base routes. So I doubt this base will grow. You can do the math…

ANC pilots do fly to Hawaii.

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When you write “never get in,” that must be dramatic, theatrical, and known to be absolutely false. Anchorage pilots will move, retire, upgrade in and out of base, and some FO’s will leave for FE and UP. That will provide many FO positions in the future. The ANC base is likely to grow 9% over the next 3 years. Not a lot but that would likely provide at least 30-50 positions during that period of time. Reserve in ANC goes out of seniority, as it is much more palatable then the other bases.
So yes, a new hire would likely hold ANC in 8-18 months, as for “never” being able to hold ANC, well that is just purely a false statement, written to discourage and detour applicants. He wants you to know, he is very unhappy here, and if he is really unhappy, well without question, so will you.

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Old 07-14-2021, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
So, the company restricts all flexibility, has control issues, so we work together to take back our quality of life🤔…. Kinda sounds like what a union and friends do, and you have a problem with this?
So how much does a week of summer vacation cost? Asking for a friend.
If all the senior guys didn't bid the summer vacation slots to sell to junior pilots there might be some left for the rest of us.
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Benito
So how much does a week of summer vacation cost? Asking for a friend.
If all the senior guys didn't bid the summer vacation slots to sell to junior pilots there might be some left for the rest of us.
Really, do you think that is how it goes? Not a dime, straight trades, a couple of guys wouldn’t trade, I found three willing to help. It wasn’t hard, we have some great guys here, even amongst the evil senior ones😉. Most know and understand the game, some well, let’s just say they are special. I have found, you get back what you put out in life!
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
When you write “never get in,” that must be dramatic, theatrical, and known to be absolutely false. Anchorage pilots will move, retire, and upgrade in and out of base. That will provide many FO positions in the future. The ANC base is likely to grow 9% over the next 3 years. Not a lot but that would likely provide at least 30-50 positions during that period of time. Reserve in ANC goes out of seniority, as it is much more palatable then the other bases.
So yes, a new hire would likely hold ANC in 8-18 months, as for “never” being able to hold ANC, well that is just purely a false statement, written to discourage and detour applicants. He wants you to know, he is very unhappy here, and if he is really unhappy, well without question, so will you.

You missed the context of “continues to stagnate”. The ANC base just got 64 and 65 but they didn’t need to add pilots. This is for a base with only 89 FOs. There are 462 FOs in SEA. It’s not out of this world to see all SE flying go to QX…

Nearly all of the FAI flying went to QX. One could wait far, far longer than 18 months to see ANC.

This will be the scenario most applicants should consider if they intend on not commuting to ANC.


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Old 07-14-2021, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
You missed the context of “continues to stagnate”. The ANC base just got 64 and 65 but they didn’t need to add pilots. This is for a base with only 89 FOs. There are 462 FOs in SEA. It’s not out of this world to see all SE flying go to QX…

Nearly all of the FAI flying went to QX. One could wait far, far longer than 18 months to see ANC.

This will be the scenario most applicants should consider if they intend on not commuting to ANC.


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Where are those numbers from? We have way more pilots in ANC and SEA than what you wrote.


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Realistically, 8-18 months for ANC and PDX. Maybe sooner, but that would be my best guess.

The boogieman isn’t real, but QX will likely continue to grow up there. The base will likely stay about its current size over the next 3 years. At that point, ANC likely becomes the most senior AS base… pretty crazy, it was the junior base most of my career
Interesting you'd say ANC becomes the most senior base. Wouldn't the wildcard be the final decision on the SFO base? If that closes, there's only so many vacancies they can create in LAX. Not to mention as the Buses go away even LA Bus would have to close one day. Closing VX bases will leave only one CA base: LAX. This base has already trended most senior and I don't see anything on the horizon (no pun intended) to suggest otherwise. LAX will continue to suffer from forced displacements for the bottom guys in each seat as guys use displacement rights when the Airbus base(s) close up.
Just IMO but until all the Airbuses are gone, LAX Boeing goes senior.
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Where are those numbers from? We have way more pilots in ANC and SEA than what you wrote.




Interesting you'd say ANC becomes the most senior base. Wouldn't the wildcard be the final decision on the SFO base? If that closes, there's only so many vacancies they can create in LAX. Not to mention as the Buses go away even LA Bus would have to close one day. Closing VX bases will leave only one CA base: LAX. This base has already trended most senior and I don't see anything on the horizon (no pun intended) to suggest otherwise. LAX will continue to suffer from forced displacements for the bottom guys in each seat as guys use displacement rights when the Airbus base(s) close up.
Just IMO but until all the Airbuses are gone, LAX Boeing goes senior.

I should have said line holding FOs. It was from the most recent eligibility to bid list. There’s either something wrong on my end or the base position list isn’t available. Anyone who can see that should post the numbers.

You do bring up a very interesting scenario when SFO closes. I’ve already seen my base seniority slowly slide downhill as Airbus FOs grab Boeing 737 slots in Seattle.

And don’t hate the player hate the game. It’s not any one pilots fault. Still good for new hires to realize their seniority is sliding backwards on the 737 and it’s going to take a lot of hiring before that changes.


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Old 07-15-2021, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
The ANC base is likely to grow 9% over the next 3 years. Not a lot but that would likely provide at least 30-50 positions during that period of time.
Do you see ANC actually growing? My buddies there think they’re dying a slow death with QX grabbing their flying like low-hanging fruit.
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Do you see ANC actually growing? My buddies there think they’re dying a slow death with QX grabbing their flying like low-hanging fruit.
No need to worry, those RJ’s are only getting RNAV certified to use those airports as a diversion airport
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