Alaska Air Hiring
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#4235
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Reserve times?
Good morning all,
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
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Assuming you read the JB or AS thread, which was really helpful, I think it's a good question with some nuance. I'm curious what folks think as well. Take the flaming like a man
#4237
Good morning all,
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
I personally wouldn't couldn't consider JB for that last reason (I didn't, never applied). I would at least talk to someone who's based at LGB.
But there are persistent rumors of an AS/JB merger... it's plausible so it might work out the same either way.
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Good morning all,
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2019-04-25-Alaska-Air-Group-reports-First-Quarter-2019-results
http://investor.jetblue.com/investor-relations/financial-information/quarterly-results/23-04-2019
The latest I’ve heard at JetBlue, is hiring ~450 this year and ~500 the next two years after that. JetBlue also has industry leading RJ scope as opposed to Alaska having zero. And with 95 new A321’s/LR/XLR/A220’s scheduled to show up between this month and the end of 2024 there is a lot of growth that I don’t think is in Alaska’s immediate future since the merger happened. Also the Europe flying will apparently be 3 pilot augmented creating a need for a slightly larger seniority list (26 321LR/XLR).
Anyways in your case, I’d still say Alaska so you can have peace of mind about the company’s west coast strategy and commitment. I think you’ll have more hired in behind and therefore, better progression at JetBlue though.
Last edited by SaturnV; 07-11-2019 at 09:12 AM.
#4239
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LGB has no movement, once you get in you will be very stagnant forever. Also there's risk the base will shrink or close... prepared to move east or do a transcon commute for life?
I personally wouldn't couldn't consider JB for that last reason (I didn't, never applied). I would at least talk to someone who's based at LGB.
But there are persistent rumors of an AS/JB merger... it's plausible so it might work out the same either way.
I personally wouldn't couldn't consider JB for that last reason (I didn't, never applied). I would at least talk to someone who's based at LGB.
But there are persistent rumors of an AS/JB merger... it's plausible so it might work out the same either way.
That being said, I wouldn’t not apply to JB because of the slow LGB movement. There are only about 8 large pax/cargo airlines (Alaska & JB are two of them) out there that will allow you to earn $170-200k/year after 3-5 years on property in the right seat. Why limit yourself over geography when there are so few “desirable” jobs? You can always leave IF your hometown/coast airline calls. But there is no gurantee even 1 of the 8 will call. If your current job is paying $180k/year and depositing 16% of your earnings into your 401k every two weeks and paying out 2-15% in profit sharing then sure, sit on the side line and narrow your choices down to 4 or 5 out of the 8. But if you are at a regional with no flow or the like with no defined career progression, keep the apps out everywhere I say.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: you may not be advocating for someone in general not to apply because of slow LGB movement but rather just stating the personal choice you made. My 2 cents is food for thought for those who may currently be on the fence about applying.
Last edited by SaturnV; 07-11-2019 at 09:09 AM.
#4240
Good morning all,
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
Gotta Hypothetical: JB LGB, or Alaska? If I am fortunate to get LGB with B6, and offered a job with Alaska. Like my previous posts, Im a west coast guy. Reserve with JB will be a few years, I can drive to work. Alaska, how long is reserve in LAX/SNA?
What are the typical trips on the bus or 737 from LAX/SNA? Red eyes, transcons, up and down west coast?????
Also, when the downturn happens, which company do you think is in better financial position? AKL seems to manage things a bit better. Deleveraging from Virgin merge, paying a dividend, pretty good EPS.
JB low EPS, Debt to Cap % great position, no dividend. ????????
HappyD
Please easy with the flames!!
Reserve will prolly run anywhere from 8 mo to a year in LAX. But the LAX base is growing as well. A lot of folks moving in and out with the crossbidding as well between Airbus and Boeing fleets. SNA is a Co Domicile and will prolly run you a little longer than LAX as far as reserve times. Plus flying between the 2 fleets changes often, seems like there's more Airbus now in SNA, but that is just my opinion, I haven't looked at it too closely. I'm a West Coastie myself and never applied to JB for that reason, that being said, I love JB's aggressive growth plan and wish we had more of it at Alaska!
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