Originally Posted by Baradium

Delta reserves get days off, number of days off varies by the average line value for that month as well as percentage of category on reserve (more reserves net you an extra day off). Some categories had 15 days off for reserves for April. SEA 737 was at 13 (the minimum for a 30 or 31 day month). Reserve still didn't reach the plug in the category. Delta also allows you to put as many days of reserve together as you want, so those 13-15 days off can be in one block. The company will assign extra time off as needed to maintain legality (usually a day and a half off every 3-4 days to keep you legal for 4 day trips). All reserves are long call, you can only be escalated to short call 6 times in a month. Short call call-out is "proximate to the airport." That is generally understood to be within around 2 hrs in ok traffic, rush hour it's whenever you can, there is no hard limit. If you are escalated to short call and not used you get an extra hour of credit added.

I have 17 days off next month (counting 2 5am releases and an 11pm show as work days) at around 77 hours credit. Commutability varies by base and base makeup (bases with more commuters tend to get more commutable trips). Next month I have what I think will be my first trip at the company that isn't commutable on the back end if I don't swap it (there is one in open time I can swap with). I'm around 85% seniority in Seattle. The plug in Seattle has a 16 day off line at 75 hrs credit for April, 10 from the bottom has 18 days off at 75 hrs credit on a front loaded schedule (off from the 17th on, the 1st of May is part of the April bid month).

It seems that the very top of the seniority list at Alaska holds a somewhat similar schedules to what we get at Delta, the big difference is with everyone else. Don't let Kotzebue discourage you from getting something better. He appears to have decided that getting any improvements will result in a pay loss for him and is focused on that.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Yeah somebodies confusing them with one of the foriegn Virgin airlines

Originally Posted by Ohio

Please post what we gained for giving up the pensions, or was that Kasher also?

Originally Posted by av8or

OTZ..... fake news? Or just irrelevant because A. You’ve only lived in negotiation dynamic that leads with “what are we gonna have to give up?” B. You don’t give rats a$$ about the bottom 20%

Btw... you’re right.... they don’t want commuters. Unfortunately for them (and possibly YOU), they bought about 800 of em with the VX purchase, and, also hired a decent amount of commuters last year, and prob will continue to as the supply of “qualified” pilots dwindles. You are fast becoming the minority my friend. That’s a fact.

Originally Posted by av8or

OTZ..... fake news? Or just irrelevant because A. You’ve only lived in negotiation dynamic that leads with “what are we gonna have to give up?” B. You don’t give rats a$$ about the bottom 20%

Btw... you’re right.... they don’t want commuters. Unfortunately for them (and possibly YOU), they bought about 800 of em with the VX purchase, and, also hired a decent amount of commuters last year, and prob will continue to as the supply of “qualified” pilots dwindles. You are fast becoming the minority my friend. That’s a fact.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy

How's that possible? We have guys on the other forum saying their trip trade was denied because it put them at 90:18, when the month max was 90:00.

Are you bidding SC reserve all 12 months and then working on vacation and days off?

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

First year or two Of VX existence it was absolutely true. And yes the rate was $95 an hour. Go ask LJ, he will straighten you out.

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

Wow, 17 days off 78 hours of credit and two days getting off at 5:00 am... pardon me. Yeah those will be awesome days.. you will be a zombie.
I had no idea your schedules were so awesome over there, how do I apply. You realize I see your lines each and every month?

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

It’s called seniority, you are only there for a short while.

Originally Posted by Barneyrubble

Absolutely not true, there was not one pilot that went back to year one pay.

Originally Posted by Baradium

I asked for those flights, if you see our lines every month you should have a better grasp of our schedules. I also said where I'm at on the seniority list in SEA. What kind of schedules do you get at 80% or higher at Alaska?



Well, that's definitely a regional attitude "we don't need to improve schedules for pilots junior to me because they will be senior some day."



As much as I have no desire to agree with OTZ, and I don't know if it ever happened or not, I remember hearing that about VX when they started.

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

First year or two Of VX existence it was absolutely true. And yes the rate was $95 an hour. Go ask LJ, he will straighten you out.

Originally Posted by Barneyrubble

Absolutely not true, there was not one pilot that went back to year one pay.