fifidriver

They only thing embarrassing here is your (sadly, ours now) contract! You don't have to believe me, and quite frankly I am not surprised. You have lived under a rock for far too long to see what's out there... I am not throwing tantrums, I am stating facts that you and some of your flying buddies are oblivious to. Instead of a pity party, I am trying to get out of here. Hopefully the door will hit me on the way out sooner than later.

OTZeagle1

With our embarrassing contract, I averaged 15.3 days off and made $406,000 in 2018.... I know I know at Virgin you would have made 1 million dollars with 16 days off

Packrat

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. There are plenty of people hiring right now.

NotTellin

Because you drove from Gig Harbor to the airport at 5:00am and drove home to Gig Harbor after midnight on the last day. What works for you, does not work for most. How about trying a little empathy. Never mind, I know I’m wasting my time with you.

KnockKnock

You can't seem to state your position without throwing jabs at the Boeing pilots. You attack us if we live in base. You attack us as having no "balls". You attack us as being kool aid drinkers simply because we don't join you in your constant misery. Just because I don't complain on a daily basis, doesn't mean I don't know exactly where and how our contract lags the industry.

You also are very astute at glossing over the fact that you came from a place that had as many contractual protections as you currently work under. Very little and nothing enforceable. AS pilots did not make you work at a shop that had no scope, less pay, had less vacation accrual, less retirement contribution and no enforceable contract. You chose that life when you went to VX. That life choice was made BEFORE AS acquired VX. Maybe after you were there for a while you decided it could be better and organized but that doesn't absolve you of your choice to work under those conditions in the first place. It most certainly does not give you right to play preacher at the pulpit now.

I too decided it could and should be better here at AS and was resolved to fight for better in '18 as many of us were. I've sent all the emails. I've attended the pickets. I've vocalized my discontent on the surveys. I've done all I can short of being given a vote. Please tell me what you're doing differently that constitutes have bigger "balls".

You may have had a better QOL at VX and that was your justification for going there in spite of not having the contractual protections you now demand. Even with a worse contract here than where I came from, I justify my decision because my QOL is still better than it was before. I see my family more and that's what matters to me. So does that make one of us less than the other? Is one of us to blame for the others lot in life?

I've never once stated AS saved VX. I've said VX did not put themselves in a position to have any better. It was too little too late. So again, you can continue your attacks on the Boeing pilots but it was YOU that made you bed. No L-AS did a God****ed thing to you!

OhSnapAF

Cute, you could have had 17 days off and another 100k (plus retirement) with proper work rules and scheduling language. I guess you hate more money AND time off...

EskimoJoe

I love how these loud mouth VX’ers on here seem to believe that with them, “there’s a new sheriff in town”. You guys don’t know what you’re dealing with. Good Luck...what with your huge balls and all. LOL. I’ll check back in 2021 and see how the new Big balled Sheriffs have fared...oh, and I only made $365k last year. I commute.😬

WutFace

All that money pays for a lot of vasoline.

Flyboy8784

For what it’s worth.....b***hing about stuff that happened in the past (on either side) isn’t gonna help us going forward.

I had a chance to meet the new ALA union chairs as well as the MEC this week and as a former VX’er? I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that this union leadership is solid!!

I had my doubts at first, I’ll admit. But every single committee chair, regardless of prior airline has the same unified stance now. It was really incredibly to witness. I’m super fired up and motivated, just like the rest of the union.

We’ve got to maintain unity going forward. Like it or not.....this is OUR airline now. So let’s do what we can to make it a better place.

GreatBigSea

This is what ****es me off the most. Theres no fight on the boeing side. You've already thrown in the towel for 2020. Why don't we try and fight for improvements this time around? And yes, that may mean even mean voting no on the first proposed CBA.