Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

Not trying to be relevant. Just trying to be honest. You hate the company I work for, you pretend unity, be honest you guys really only care about yourselves. I hope Ispeak is soon a DAL 777 CA, ECH a Amr 777 CA. You can call me an outlier, I can tell you, I have talked with many of my contemporaries on my side. Almost all feel the same way. Some might not voice it, but that does not make it anymore true. I wish you all the best, just not at Alaska. Most of you, judging by your posts would be happier elsewhere anyways.

Originally Posted by Ispeakjive

You are correct, you are not relevant.

Originally Posted by KnockKnock

I’m bidding in the low 70% at AS and have been getting 95% of what I want out of a schedule for at least the last year. I average 16 days off, crediting 80-85 hrs, start times when I want them and type of flying I prefer to do. All while easily avoiding the stuff I don’t want, like all-nighters and S.E. I also haven’t worked a single Christmas and only 1 Thanksgiving since I’ve been here. I’m able to spread my vacay out to get extra days off from April-August. While there is plenty of room for improvement to our section 25, it certainly hasn’t been the Bataan death march some have painted it to be. I’ve worked under both systems and have seen the good and bad each has to offer. I have friends at most of the other major airlines, many with PBS. None of them seem to promote their PBS systems anywhere near the level ExVX guys do. They all say pretty much the same things I experienced while using it. Good for the senior folks while hanging the Jr. guys out to dry. You have to know the system inside and out so as not to screw yourself and you typically have to sacrifice one thing you might want in order to gain another. What is it about the VX system that makes, at least those on here, overwhelmingly in favor of PBS? Now that AAG has taken the reigns, many are complaining about QOL going down the toilet but you’re still using PBS. You’re being optimized and losing days off. Now that you’re getting to sample what will become of PBS under a management that loves them some productivity, what makes you think it would be better if we adopted it system wide? I’ll look at any system but wouldn’t vote in favor for something that would just lead me to the same optimized outcome while not gaining anything in return......Wasn’t this a thread on hiring....Ha!

Originally Posted by All Bizniz

Knock Knock, be honest.. We have seen AS bid package as a whole. The Lines are generally bad! Lol

There is a lot more flexibility in PBS. It's not unheard of for Very Junior guys to get 16-20 Days Off coupled with the EXACT range of Days Off they want for EACH week of the month in one shot.

One and Done!

Someone dictating my Trips AND my Days Off by building Lines for me is not my idea of having control over my schedule. Then I gotta spend the rest of the month begging, buying or borrowing to get it to my liking almost every month..

It's an archaic system....

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

With all do respect sir, this may be to honest for most of you to handle.

The SLI reach by the VX side has put such a sour taste in my mouth that I will vote for nothing that any of you want. In fact, if I knew terrible schedules would cause 80 percent of you to leave and seek employment elsewhere, I would gladly do all I could to secure this outcome. Do I wish any of you ill, absolutely not. I hope those 80% go to Dal, Amr, Uua, and are quickly widebody captains and you all have great careers. I hope our negotiations drag into 2023. I wish for very very few computable lines. I don’t think you even begin to understand the divide that is quickly growing at this company. It will get very very bad in my estimation. So here is to Allbiz being a 787 CA very soon at Uua!

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

With all do respect sir, this may be to honest for most of you to handle.

The SLI reach by the VX side has put such a sour taste in my mouth that I will vote for nothing that any of you want. In fact, if I knew terrible schedules would cause 80 percent of you to leave and seek employment elsewhere, I would gladly do all I could to secure this outcome. Do I wish any of you ill, absolutely not. I hope those 80% go to Dal, Amr, Uua, and are quickly widebody captains and you all have great careers. I hope our negotiations drag into 2023. I wish for very very few computable lines. I don’t think you even begin to understand the divide that is quickly growing at this company. It will get very very bad in my estimation. So here is to Allbiz being a 787 CA very soon at Uua!

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1

In fact, if I knew terrible schedules would cause 80 percent of you to leave and seek employment elsewhere, I would gladly do all I could to secure this outcome.



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Do I wish any of you ill, absolutely not.