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Old 05-07-2018, 12:53 PM
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Yep, swapping litttle airplanes for big airplanes. That is how we have been able to more than double ASM’s since I got here while only increasing airframes by about 20%. (Boeing side).

800’s for 200’s, 800’s for MD’s, 800 & 900s for 400s, MAX9s for 320/319s...and the beat goes on.

One thing I have found with ops management is that they will try to paint as rosy a picture as possible. I would bet that now that they are saying new hire class maybe in DEC/JAN...what they really mean is DEC/JAN at the EARLIEST. DEC/JAN is 6 months out which seems to be an “event horizon” here. If it were me I definitely would not be waiting around because I think this could easily slip by several months and their would be little warning.
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Originally Posted by 2loud
There's a prime example of what an undesirable would say. No one here is a VX hater. Get over your inferiority complex bubba. Welcome to scheduling according to the optimizer.
Then there is you who is not so subtle. You say: "No one here dislikes you," while doling out an insult. Pick a lane dumb a$$.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200

All bus pilots will soon fly at least 1, many 2, and some even 3 days more per month. All bus pilots will fly a 75 hr min month. Most will work themselves well into the 90's. This alone fixes all their staffing problems for the rest of the year.
This must be the windfall for the Bus guys that weird little guy who disguises his identity by typing "y'all" every sixth word and a couple of his acolytes or alter egos keep talking about.

Fixing AS by flying more for the same money and less days off.

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Old 05-07-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
This must be the windfall for the Bus guys that weird little guy who disguises his identity by typing "y'all" every sixth word and a couple of his acolytes or alter egos keep talking about.

Fixing AS by flying more for the same money and less days off.

I need to go back to Momentum to get some more medicine.
Hahaha.. That's hilarious....... For some reason Napoleon Bonaparte came to mind..

I think "that weird little guy" is an outlier at AS....... or a troll....

I've had the pleasure of chatting with a few AS pilots and they all seem pretty cool. No pompous airs about them...

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Old 05-07-2018, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
Hahaha.. That's hilarious....... For some reason Napoleon Bonaparte came to mind..

I think "that weird little guy" is an outlier at AS....... or a troll....

I've had the pleasure of chatting with a few AS pilots and they all seem pretty cool. No pompous airs about them...
I am a west coast bubba with family in the SEA and a lot of friends at the Eskimo and I have yet to meet anyone like a couple of the D-Canoes on this ridiculous thread. Outliers and trolls for sure. Not worth a moment of time to pay them any mind. Just background noise.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
Mudhen is trying to be subtle, but he sounds like a VX hater.
I don’t hate anyone and I don’t do subtle.

What I wrote is simply my opinion based on my experiences in AAG.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Efficiency is all B&B care about. What is efficient for them is not in a pilot’s best interest. We must work 75 hrs a month. I hate it but those are the rules. We are always understaffed which is efficient for them but means very little trading and virtually no drops. All of it sucks but that’s reality.

Meanwhile, the average native AK pilots flys over 90 hrs credit a month, while bitcchin about it. We do it to ourselves.

Line bidding and Alaska crew scheduling is going to be very difficult on the Bus side of the house. I feel for you. Your QOL is going to go way down. I wish it wasn’t so. I expect an increase in attrition on the Bus side as men find other airlines that offer a better life.

I’m to long in the tooth to start over. I’ve been beat by them for so many years that it doesn’t even hurt anymore. But make no mistake, I give them nothing and take from them everything. I am one of the most inefficient pilots they have.
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:34 AM
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Any truth to a rumor about AS stopping hiring until 2019?
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:37 AM
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Any truth to a rumor about AS stopping hiring until 2019?
Yeah C.P confirmed it in company email.
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200
I don’t hate anyone and I don’t do subtle.

What I wrote is simply my opinion based on my experiences in AAG.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Efficiency is all B&B care about. What is efficient for them is not in a pilot’s best interest. We must work 75 hrs a month. I hate it but those are the rules. We are always understaffed which is efficient for them but means very little trading and virtually no drops. All of it sucks but that’s reality.

Meanwhile, the average native AK pilots flys over 90 hrs credit a month, while bitcchin about it. We do it to ourselves.

Line bidding and Alaska crew scheduling is going to be very difficult on the Bus side of the house. I feel for you. Your QOL is going to go way down. I wish it wasn’t so. I expect an increase in attrition on the Bus side as men find other airlines that offer a better life.

I’m to long in the tooth to start over. I’ve been beat by them for so many years that it doesn’t even hurt anymore. But make no mistake, I give them nothing and take from them everything. I am one of the most inefficient pilots they have.
Thanks for the input. I'm hoping that scheduling turns a corner in the not to distant future. It can be done.
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200
Line bidding and Alaska crew scheduling is going to be very difficult on the Bus side of the house. I feel for you. Your QOL is going to go way down. I wish it wasn’t so. I expect an increase in attrition on the Bus side as men find other airlines that offer a better life.

I’m to long in the tooth to start over. I’ve been beat by them for so many years that it doesn’t even hurt anymore. But make no mistake, I give them nothing and take from them everything. I am one of the most inefficient pilots they have.
I appreciate your candor about the current situation at AS and the "shock and awe" that's in store for us on the Bus side. It's a sad reality that many have become numbed to the degradation of the Scheduling and QOL provisions here...

Given that most airlines - from Legacies, to Mainlines, to even Regionals - now tend to have pretty decent Scheduling provisions, can someone on the AS side give me some insights on how/why it has gotten so bad? What is it about AS that makes things slide backwards, when the industry as a whole is moving forwards?

As pilots, we are away from home, on average, at least half of the month and so along with pay rate, good QOL is as important if not more so, if we ever want to play any meaningful part in the lives of our families.

We must be united on that front with regards to the upcoming contract negotiations..

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