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Old 05-06-2018, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverJunior
Management has been in talks with Boeing and Airbus. They are weighing their options between the 787 and A350. We're also looking at the C Series, which will be flown by Alaska Airlines pilots. AAG is going to dissolve QX and staple their pilots to the bottom of our list after the ISL. We're also going to get the C Series. SkyWest contract will be terminated.

And if you believe all of that, I have some ocean-front property to sell you in Phoenix.

Sorry, I just had to have some fun here. I'm a pathetic loser who doesn't have anything better to do with his time on a nice Sunday afternoon.
Haha! Nice.

If the big news is that the training department will move to Phoenix to house both the Airbus and 737 sims, I have heard that is true.
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Old 05-06-2018, 10:04 PM
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Just 6 months ago we were suppposed to hire 400 for 2018, 120 on Bus and 280 Boeing side. Now we stop at just ~106 for the year? What really happened? Yes gas is above 70/barrel for the 1st time since 2014, but what else? You don’t stop hiring to save money for an aircraft order. That doesn’t really make any sense.
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Old 05-06-2018, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just 6 months ago we were suppposed to hire 400 for 2018, 120 on Bus and 280 Boeing side. Now we stop at just ~106 for the year? What really happened? Yes gas is above 70/barrel for the 1st time since 2014, but what else? You don’t stop hiring to save money for an aircraft order. That doesn’t really make any sense.
Or it's just typical Alaska Airlines BS. They always come up with HUGE hiring numbers for the next year and then they fizzle.

They tried to feed us some real horse manure in my new-hire class in 2006. We were all going to upgrade in 3 years. None of us believed it. Their numbers didn't make sense. They would have had to hire 30+ a month. They could barely handle 12 new-hires a month.

Just a load of BS from flight ops & Angle Lake as usual. Things are going to be great... until they aren't.

What a bunch of clowns.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:33 AM
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2000 pilots by the year 2000. Its all you have to know.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just 6 months ago we were suppposed to hire 400 for 2018, 120 on Bus and 280 Boeing side. Now we stop at just ~106 for the year? What really happened? Yes gas is above 70/barrel for the 1st time since 2014, but what else? You don’t stop hiring to save money for an aircraft order. That doesn’t really make any sense.
They looked at the bus side of the company and found a bunch more efficiency that could be had. Hiring stops because they simply do not need any more pilots. They found that they could work the bus and it's pilots a lot more than had previously been done by VX. That's it.

All bus pilots will soon fly at least 1, many 2, and some even 3 days more per month. All bus pilots will fly a 75 hr min month. Most will work themselves well into the 90's. This alone fixes all their staffing problems for the rest of the year.

Next year the pig will be through the python. They will start to plan for a little more than 4% growth. Then retirements and attrition start to become a factor and - poof - the school house open up.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:33 AM
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Next year the pig will be through the python.
Does that mean that the company is about to sit down and take a huge ****?
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200
They looked at the bus side of the company and found a bunch more efficiency that could be had. Hiring stops because they simply do not need any more pilots. They found that they could work the bus and it's pilots a lot more than had previously been done by VX. That's it.

All bus pilots will soon fly at least 1, many 2, and some even 3 days more per month. All bus pilots will fly a 75 hr min month. Most will work themselves well into the 90's. This alone fixes all their staffing problems for the rest of the year.

Next year the pig will be through the python. They will start to plan for a little more than 4% growth. Then retirements and attrition start to become a factor and - poof - the school house open up.
Mudhen is trying to be subtle, but he sounds like a VX hater.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
Mudhen is trying to be subtle, but he sounds like a VX hater.
I don't think so. AS has routinely publicized "growth". But the "growth" is in exchanging 737-200s for -400s. Or exchanging -700s for -900s. That's certainly growth in seat miles but doesn't do a thing for the growth of pilot numbers, Captain seats or better flying lines.

By increasing VX frequency on the West Coast they can crow about "growth" and not need additional pilots.

Again, AS pilots have seen this movie before while VXers are just getting their first showing.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
Mudhen is trying to be subtle, but he sounds like a VX hater.
There's a prime example of what an undesirable would say. No one here is a VX hater. Get over your inferiority complex bubba. Welcome to scheduling according to the optimizer.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:38 PM
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-max-9-448357/

I thought this was old news but here’s another example of growth without more pilots.
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