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Old 03-27-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thermthomas1984
I have a question, and please forgive my ignorance but I am curious how the pathway program with Horizon actually works. I am a USAF reserve pilot and have about 800 military time and 900 total time. My goal is to fly for Alaska and I am looking at the pathway program with Horizon. I am in the military so I know it can’t be as good as the recruitment page makes it out to be, I am jus trying to figure out how exactly the program works and how long it would take. Is it a flow program or just a guaranteed interview? How long is Horizon taking to upgrade people? And can I still apply directly to Alaska when I hit the military mins (not that the mins would get me hired)? Any info would be great!
There is a dialogue on the Alaska Pathway program going on the Horizon APC channel. It is seniority based, wait for your number to come up.

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Old 03-27-2018, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GUFN
There is a dialogue on the Alaska Pathway program going on the Horizon APC channel. It is seniority based, wait for your number to come up.

Alaska Pathway - Where else can you go after?
Anybody know if it's comparable in timeline to the AA flow program?
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:17 PM
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Anybody know if it's comparable in timeline to the AA flow program?
I think AA is faster, they are hiring, Alaska isn’t (beyond what is currently in the pool for the Boeing).
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Old 03-27-2018, 08:07 PM
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You know, I read my post over and over and I can’t for the life of me find the part where I was requesting your opinion or your approval of my life goals.

I was just trying to help an inexperienced aviator avoid making a mistake!
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Originally Posted by flywest
To quote the great Ray Charles: Hit the road jack and don't ya come back no more, no more. One of the big 4 are waiting..... or maybe they don't want your negative a--. Good luck. OCCP
I’ll tell you what. I’ll apply for a job at the big 4 if your wet dream of DOH integration comes true! Deal?
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Old 03-28-2018, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Thermthomas1984
I have a question, and please forgive my ignorance but I am curious how the pathway program with Horizon actually works. I am a USAF reserve pilot and have about 800 military time and 900 total time. My goal is to fly for Alaska and I am looking at the pathway program with Horizon. I am in the military so I know it can’t be as good as the recruitment page makes it out to be, I am jus trying to figure out how exactly the program works and how long it would take. Is it a flow program or just a guaranteed interview? How long is Horizon taking to upgrade people? And can I still apply directly to Alaska when I hit the military mins (not that the mins would get me hired)? Any info would be great!
Dear Dude,

The reason these “flow” programs are set up is to maintain a pipeline of cheap labor supplied by a very long stick, and shiny carrot. If I was a betting man I would go to anywhere besides Horizon if you truly want to end up at Alaska. Right now the economy is on the up tick and when the party stops you are going to get caught with your pants down and stuck at Horizon. AAG will not been pulling from their cheap labor when this happens due to an economic situation or due to the dreaded “pilot shortage”.

I would not sell your self short by only having Alaska in your sights. You gotta barf everywhere and see how it shakes out. If you truly want to be on the upper left half of the country, bedsides Alaska there is a new player in town call Delta Air Lines. Delta Air Lines appreciates their fellow airplane drivers and likes to pay them lots of money to do so. Delta Air Lines has the most diverse make up of sky bound people movers in the industry as well. However if you really got a hard on to fly a Boeing 737 in both the small version and the extended version for the rest of your days, then Alaska might be the place to be. Also offered at Alaska is subpar wages and a management team that likes you to know that you are “number 5”. I don’t know about your math but mine tells me 1 is better than 5.

Maybe you can tell through the lack of response to your questions that you are climbing up the wrong tree. Get some more hours at Skywest and the rest of your military hours are truly appreciated by any of the larger jet driver companies out there.

Good luck Dude!
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
I’ll tell you what. I’ll apply for a job at the big 4 if your wet dream of DOH integration comes true! Deal?
Are you saying you haven't applied to the big 4 yet? I'm so confused. You hate this place so much it's very obvious because you spew barf all over this place on a constant basis. If you aren't trying to leave then do us all a favor and apply today!
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:40 AM
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I’ll tell you what. I’ll apply for a job at the big 4 if your wet dream of DOH integration comes true! Deal?
Well I guess DOH is what basically what the rest of the Virgin groups are
getting. What makes you any more special. In my opinion DOH is fair. We all started our seniority with DOH. Except Pilots at Virgin you have 2007 hires senior to 2006 hires? Good Luck. Arbitrator will figure it out I guess.
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Old 03-28-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
Dear Dude,

The reason these “flow” programs are set up is to maintain a pipeline of cheap labor supplied by a very long stick, and shiny carrot. If I was a betting man I would go to anywhere besides Horizon if you truly want to end up at Alaska. Right now the economy is on the up tick and when the party stops you are going to get caught with your pants down and stuck at Horizon. AAG will not been pulling from their cheap labor when this happens due to an economic situation or due to the dreaded “pilot shortage”.

I would not sell your self short by only having Alaska in your sights. You gotta barf everywhere and see how it shakes out. If you truly want to be on the upper left half of the country, bedsides Alaska there is a new player in town call Delta Air Lines. Delta Air Lines appreciates their fellow airplane drivers and likes to pay them lots of money to do so. Delta Air Lines has the most diverse make up of sky bound people movers in the industry as well. However if you really got a hard on to fly a Boeing 737 in both the small version and the extended version for the rest of your days, then Alaska might be the place to be. Also offered at Alaska is subpar wages and a management team that likes you to know that you are “number 5”. I don’t know about your math but mine tells me 1 is better than 5.

Maybe you can tell through the lack of response to your questions that you are climbing up the wrong tree. Get some more hours at Skywest and the rest of your military hours are truly appreciated by any of the larger jet driver companies out there.

Good luck Dude!
Thanks for the info! I have actually spent the last day pilfering info from guys in my unit that fly Delta and am hearing exactly what you are saying. I think I’m going to pass on the Horizon deal and try and get on at SkyWest and then cast a wide net at the majors. Again, thanks for the honest feedback.
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
Dear Dude,

The reason these “flow” programs are set up is to maintain a pipeline of cheap labor supplied by a very long stick, and shiny carrot. If I was a betting man I would go to anywhere besides Horizon if you truly want to end up at Alaska. Right now the economy is on the up tick and when the party stops you are going to get caught with your pants down and stuck at Horizon. AAG will not been pulling from their cheap labor when this happens due to an economic situation or due to the dreaded “pilot shortage”.

I would not sell your self short by only having Alaska in your sights. You gotta barf everywhere and see how it shakes out. If you truly want to be on the upper left half of the country, bedsides Alaska there is a new player in town call Delta Air Lines. Delta Air Lines appreciates their fellow airplane drivers and likes to pay them lots of money to do so. Delta Air Lines has the most diverse make up of sky bound people movers in the industry as well. However if you really got a hard on to fly a Boeing 737 in both the small version and the extended version for the rest of your days, then Alaska might be the place to be. Also offered at Alaska is subpar wages and a management team that likes you to know that you are “number 5”. I don’t know about your math but mine tells me 1 is better than 5.

Maybe you can tell through the lack of response to your questions that you are climbing up the wrong tree. Get some more hours at Skywest and the rest of your military hours are truly appreciated by any of the larger jet driver companies out there.

Good luck Dude!
This is correct, don’t forget about the non-existent schedule flexibility that is offered via adequate reserve coverage!
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