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Old 12-18-2017, 10:08 PM
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No offense. But I view this as a scab mentality. An excuse to cross a picket line.
...said the guy sitting in his comfy chair.

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Old 12-18-2017, 10:15 PM
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Speaking of schedule flexibility, there are officially zero trades I can do next month to change anything.



A trip conflict resulted in me being short on credit, so they went ahead and assigned a useless turn in the middle of my biggest stretch of days off. Why can't we at least give people a day or two to correct their schedule before the low-credit people are assigned something? Based on what was available, there were a number of trips that I would have chosen rather than what I was assigned, all of which would have resulted in being above the credit threshold.



I understand if they don't want to call everyone on the phone all the time to sort it out, but you'd think a 24-48 hour window of allowing us to fix it ourselves wouldn't be that hard to do...


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Old 12-18-2017, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ExFokkerFlyer
Solution: PBS
It sure does seem like the company is trying to make the current system bad enough that the pilot group would gladly accept any other system...
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Old 12-19-2017, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
It sure does seem like the company is trying to make the current system bad enough that the pilot group would gladly accept any other system...

PBS is great... if you have contractual specification for ALL parameters, and pairing construction. That way everybody knows exactly what they are getting into.
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Old 12-19-2017, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
Speaking of schedule flexibility, there are officially zero trades I can do next month to change anything.

A trip conflict resulted in me being short on credit, so they went ahead and assigned a useless turn in the middle of my biggest stretch of days off. Why can't we at least give people a day or two to correct their schedule before the low-credit people are assigned something? Based on what was available, there were a number of trips that I would have chosen rather than what I was assigned, all of which would have resulted in being above the credit threshold.

I understand if they don't want to call everyone on the phone all the time to sort it out, but you'd think a 24-48 hour window of allowing us to fix it ourselves wouldn't be that hard to do...

Put the turn up for grabs. Problem solved.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ExFokkerFlyer
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PBS is one of the biggest pieces of leverage that the pilots will have going into the next round of negotiations and a bunch of you guys are tripping over yourselves to give that leverage away for free....
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Old 12-19-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
...said the guy sitting in his comfy chair.

No offense? Much taken.
That's good to hear.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lowflying
PBS is one of the biggest pieces of leverage that the pilots will have going into the next round of negotiations and a bunch of you guys are tripping over yourselves to give that leverage away for free....
AS/VX pilots already lost all leverage for those negotiations the moment the arbitrator granted 0 scope protection a few weeks back...
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar
AS/VX pilots already lost all leverage for those negotiations the moment the arbitrator granted 0 scope protection a few weeks back...
Really? Please explain. Tell me again how Skywest is going to fly 100 seat aircraft for Alaska without violating their scope clause with Delta and United. Their scope says they can't even have these jets on the property to look at at, much less fly.

This is what gets me all riled up. So, we have no leverage! Well, let's give up then. No, we have leverage, a lot. So we have no scope... here sign this crappy deal or we are going to move all the flying to Horizon. They will say that, but they won't do it. They can't do it. We have all the leverage we are willing to fight for.
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Originally Posted by lowflying
PBS is one of the biggest pieces of leverage that the pilots will have going into the next round of negotiations and a bunch of you guys are tripping over yourselves to give that leverage away for free....
^^^^this^^^^^^
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