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Old 12-16-2017, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
No offense. But I view this as a scab mentality. An excuse to cross a picket line.
Taken within the context of his post, it does not come across that way at all. It's merely a statement.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Fgrosoli
I completely understand your point of view and appreciate your honesty. On my side I have to consider my age 45, QOL with a base in LAX ( I live in San Diego) and the fact i’m Working for pennies now and need to feed my family. Delta, United ,AA and southwest are not calling so.....
I’m sure there is not a perfect airline and maybe , based on your comment seems like Alaska has some problems, but in my case is a step up. I never expect with my experience and qualifications to have to go through a regional first and instead here i’m. So hopefully I will have a great opportunity and will pass my pre- interview and if something better will come in the future I will be ready to jump on it
It's better than a regional. Good luck and ask any questions along the way.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
I'm not saying he'll cross it. But I'm saying how many people crossed the picket lines because "they want to feed their familes?"
Yup you probably misunderstood my intentions. For me is a great opportunity to go from a regional to a major and stay in the west coast, so if they offer me a job I will definitely take it and then deal with the good and bad of Alaska. That is it.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
It's better than a regional. Good luck and ask any questions along the way.
Thanks, I guess the biggest one is what to expect in this 15 minutes pre interview to make sure I will not do anything wrong....
Thanks again
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:35 AM
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Excellent posts a few pages back ForeverJunior. Everyone and anyone looking to come work at this place needs to read his post and let it sink in.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
No offense. But I view this as a scab mentality. An excuse to cross a picket line.
Oh please. Settle down
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fgrosoli
I completely understand your point of view and appreciate your honesty. On my side I have to consider my age 45, QOL with a base in LAX ( I live in San Diego) and the fact i’m Working for pennies now and need to feed my family. Delta, United ,AA and southwest are not calling so.....
I’m sure there is not a perfect airline and maybe , based on your comment seems like Alaska has some problems, but in my case is a step up. I never expect with my experience and qualifications to have to go through a regional first and instead here i’m. So hopefully I will have a great opportunity and will pass my pre- interview and if something better will come in the future I will be ready to jump on it
From one ex-mil to another, I totally understand. Alaska is my first airline and hopefully the last. I’ve been here too long and feel that I’m too old to go elsewhere. With all the negativity aside, this dysfunctional family can work out for you. There are plenty of San Diego folks who make the drive to LAX and SNA. 20+ year retirement and 6th best pay will definitely be better than what Uncle Sam is currently paying you. Take the sentiments on here with a grain of salt. I think most non-mil types are tired of the few mil-type yesmen who ruin it for the rest of us.
It seems like HR loves hiring 40+ year olds for obvious reasons. I’ve been flying with many new “older” FOs as of late. Let’s face it, Alaska is no longer the hot supermodel but a washed up-wrinkled- fat-$5 street corner hooker infested with STD. If you can lower your expectations and embrace the suck, you’ll be fine here. The current culture is very toxic and the management is enforcing DEFCON 1 hostile work environment. The only hope that we have for the future is that the WDs are slowly but surely phasing out and our pilot is growing stronger, thanks to management’s idiotic and amateur retaliation tactics.
Here are my 2 cents: Alaska should be your last choice major/legacy airline. It’s only a step up from a regional in pay rates only. Many other aspects are worse than the reputable regionals. Your QOL will suffer for quite some time since trip trading is pretty much nonexistent. If we ever end up with PBS, it will be even worse. I digress. You’ll fly the line that you are awarded with little to no flexibility. Weekends and holidays will not be in your vocabulary for a while. If you’re on reserve, expect to be jacked around by crew scheduling. I recommend boning up on the contract and learn how to file a grievance.
Sounds like you’re a Navy tacjet guy so you’re probably used to missing time with the family. The best thing (probably the only thing) about Alaska is the pilot group, especially LAX from my limited experience. Wish you the best and choose wisely.
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by echelon
Oh please. Settle down
Settle down? That's all you going to add to this discussion?
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Settle down? That's all you going to add to this discussion?
More constructive than what you added
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken
From one ex-mil to another, I totally understand. Alaska is my first airline and hopefully the last. I’ve been here too long and feel that I’m too old to go elsewhere. With all the negativity aside, this dysfunctional family can work out for you. There are plenty of San Diego folks who make the drive to LAX and SNA. 20+ year retirement and 6th best pay will definitely be better than what Uncle Sam is currently paying you. Take the sentiments on here with a grain of salt. I think most non-mil types are tired of the few mil-type yesmen who ruin it for the rest of us.
It seems like HR loves hiring 40+ year olds for obvious reasons. I’ve been flying with many new “older” FOs as of late. Let’s face it, Alaska is no longer the hot supermodel but a washed up-wrinkled- fat-$5 street corner hooker infested with STD. If you can lower your expectations and embrace the suck, you’ll be fine here. The current culture is very toxic and the management is enforcing DEFCON 1 hostile work environment. The only hope that we have for the future is that the WDs are slowly but surely phasing out and our pilot is growing stronger, thanks to management’s idiotic and amateur retaliation tactics.
Here are my 2 cents: Alaska should be your last choice major/legacy airline. It’s only a step up from a regional in pay rates only. Many other aspects are worse than the reputable regionals. Your QOL will suffer for quite some time since trip trading is pretty much nonexistent. If we ever end up with PBS, it will be even worse. I digress. You’ll fly the line that you are awarded with little to no flexibility. Weekends and holidays will not be in your vocabulary for a while. If you’re on reserve, expect to be jacked around by crew scheduling. I recommend boning up on the contract and learn how to file a grievance.
Sounds like you’re a Navy tacjet guy so you’re probably used to missing time with the family. The best thing (probably the only thing) about Alaska is the pilot group, especially LAX from my limited experience. Wish you the best and choose wisely.
Thanks Sir, really appreciate your input. Ex Air Force but landed in beautiful San Diego few years ago and never left.... anyway yes many years of missing family time in not very pleasant locations . I will pre-interview and will go from there . How long generally is reserve, before being able to hold a line ? Thanks again
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