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Old 02-07-2017, 08:59 PM
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You're welcome! I'll do it again next week too
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
I don't see who would want to work for Alaska. Mgmt already seems to be negotiating in bad faith with the JCBA and there is basically zero mainline growth. I hope you like swinging gear for the rest of your career. At least the other "air line" you mention is actively growing and doubling in size in the PNW, while AS just farms out all the new flying to the rj's. They're stuck in an old mindset and are about 15 years behind the real legacies.
To each their own. I'll swing gear all day long as long as my QOL and pay are appropriate. Check out the 737 orders Alaska has set and then re-phrase your "no growth" statement. Check out all of them fancy new EWT EMB 175s flying around with Air Lines painted on the side on the west coast. Air Lines isn't as innocent as you make it sound. How many regional planes fly with Air Lines paint? Compare to Alaska and you have no argument. Alaska will get scope this year..that's one thing Air Lines pilots have done right in contract negations. 15 years behind is a little dramatic, kind of like your post.
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
Hired December 1st, Start Monday. Little bit of a wait due to Holidays. Those Hired Late Jan are starting the end of February.

I was a retired military heavy pilot with 5k TT and 3.8K TPIC, applied during previous open window. Having interviewed with another Air Line that really likes to see what kind of a test taker you are, I can't say enough about how well Alaska does their interview process. Show up, be yourself, answer questions honesty... unless they ask you what airplane is a dream of your to fly (answer 737), trust me.

No, at Alaska there are no trick questions, they don't ask you about some complicated JEPP approach and try to trick you.

As for the others hired with me.. experience is all over the map. One guy had been applying since 2001 I think. They want to know if you really want to work for Alaska.
Good stuff! Thanks for the info. Glad to see people getting in to class quick.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:12 AM
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Hired Jan 26th, no class date yet. One person in my group got a mid March class date.

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5000TT, 4000Jet, 2000TPIC, 4 internal recs, NGPA, 4yr degree, all part 135 and civilian. I've been applying since 2013. My group was a mix of military, 135, 121 and quite a range in experience.

Interview is as described. Rainier flight service did a great job prepping me for the interviews. It was a great experience all around.
 
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Occp is bang on. Sad but true.
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Work2much
15 years behind is a little dramatic, kind of like your post.

Not really. Replacing older 737s with newer, larger ones isn't really growth in terms of pilots and upward movement. It will be growth in seats but no so much in aircraft. Vx and AS combined have aircraft growth average of about 2 planes per year over the next decade. That's not much. If mgmt parks the Airbus over time then there is no growth at all.
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:58 PM
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The word growth and AAG does not go hand in hand. AAG grows in seat miles (ie. bigger planes and Skywest, aka ERs,-800s, and RJs). There were roughly little over 1500 pilots when I was hired well over a decade ago. We now have just shy of 1800 pilots on the seniority list. Age 65 crowd started retiring at the end of 2012. As a rough estimate, approximately 30-40 pilots retired and/or medicalled out each year since. In addition, we've been losing some new hires, more than ever before, to better paying airlines. I'd hardly call 200+ gain, in well over a decade, "growth". The puzzle palace is beyond paranoid of hiring pilots who'll use this place as a stepping stone. If you want a job here, you'll have to spill your beans and convince these pea size minded people.
I've never thought I'd say this but I'll say it now-I'd leave if I can. It's a legacy carrier on its way to a ULCC. Spend some time working for the man and formulate your own conclusion. Better yet, look somewhere else.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
I don't see who would want to work for Alaska. Mgmt already seems to be negotiating in bad faith with the JCBA and there is basically zero mainline growth. I hope you like swinging gear for the rest of your career. At least the other "air line" you mention is actively growing and doubling in size in the PNW, while AS just farms out all the new flying to the rj's. They're stuck in an old mindset and are about 15 years behind the real legacies.

Because there is more to life than money and growth. QOL is a big factor in my decision and I get the best QOL with Alaska by far.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:28 PM
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You must live in base.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken
The word growth and AAG does not go hand in hand. AAG grows in seat miles (ie. bigger planes and Skywest, aka ERs,-800s, and RJs). There were roughly little over 1500 pilots when I was hired well over a decade ago. We now have just shy of 1800 pilots on the seniority list. Age 65 crowd started retiring at the end of 2012. As a rough estimate, approximately 30-40 pilots retired and/or medicalled out each year since. In addition, we've been losing some new hires, more than ever before, to better paying airlines. I'd hardly call 200+ gain, in well over a decade, "growth". The puzzle palace is beyond paranoid of hiring pilots who'll use this place as a stepping stone. If you want a job here, you'll have to spill your beans and convince these pea size minded people.
I've never thought I'd say this but I'll say it now-I'd leave if I can. It's a legacy carrier on its way to a ULCC. Spend some time working for the man and formulate your own conclusion. Better yet, look somewhere else.
Do you have your apps out? Where would you like to go?
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