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Old 10-11-2015, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ORMtflyer
Do you still have to pay for your hotel during training or is it covered?
Nope, you're responsible for your hotel / crashpad for training...for now.
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ
Nope, you're responsible for your hotel / crashpad for training...for now.
Might it change?
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ
Nope, you're responsible for your hotel / crashpad for training...for now.
Originally Posted by wankel7
Might it change?
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:19 PM
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If hiring keeps going and a pilot shortage truly develops I am betting there will be many changes. I'm betting pensions will make a come back. You heard it here first.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
If hiring keeps going and a pilot shortage truly develops I am betting there will be many changes. I'm betting pensions will make a come back. You heard it here first.
Unless the newer hires vote against readding pensions so we can avoid PBS (which works well only for the more senior folks).. .

Just kidding ... I know we are all in this together, on the same team!
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Unless the newer hires vote against readding pensions so we can avoid PBS (which works well only for the more senior folks).. .

Just kidding ... I know we are all in this together, on the same team!
I'd stick with your first sentence; there's waaaaaay more truth to it. We are all in this together until the boat starts sinking, then the junior boys&girls will be thrown overboard. Seriously.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
If hiring keeps going and a pilot shortage truly develops I am betting there will be many changes. I'm betting pensions will make a come back. You heard it here first.
That's hilarious..
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WelcomeToBen
That's hilarious..

Glad you're amused. How little you think of yourself and your services that a pension it thought by you to be out of the question. Is it out of the question for management?

All things are possible when there are no suitable pilots to sit in the seats.
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:36 AM
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I don't see it happening for one reason and one reason only: Since Contract '92 (?) Alaska has been required to self-fund the pension program (before that they purchased annuities). They have had to keep to the tune of $100M in cash tied up to pay the retirees since then.

I'm sure the boys/girls at Angle Lake can think of a whole lot better things to do with $100M than fund pilot pensions. That's exactly the reason they came up with the "A plan, freeze or increased 401 choice" several years ago. At the same time they put all the new hires on the straight 401 plan.

I'd be skeptical to see any kind of A plan return.
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
I don't see it happening for one reason and one reason only: Since Contract '92 (?) Alaska has been required to self-fund the pension program (before that they purchased annuities). They have had to keep to the tune of $100M in cash tied up to pay the retirees since then.

I'm sure the boys/girls at Angle Lake can think of a whole lot better things to do with $100M than fund pilot pensions. That's exactly the reason they came up with the "A plan, freeze or increased 401 choice" several years ago. At the same time they put all the new hires on the straight 401 plan.

I'd be skeptical to see any kind of A plan return.
Our 2005 paycut was to the tune of 100m. They are rolling in cash. But your doubts are valid.
If the top 7 airlines really do have trouble staffing the flight decks then anythings possible. I'd like to see Delta and other industry leaders demand the return of pensions. They are a "quiet" way to boost compensation.
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