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Old 07-22-2015, 10:18 PM
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Word is the window will open again in the fall. Classes will continue at 2 per month with 250 newhires planned for this year and next.
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Old 07-25-2015, 02:06 PM
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Anyone get any love from Alaska at Oshkosh?
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:41 PM
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Got a chance to meet with many folks from Alaska at Oshkosh earlier this week. Left feeling good at the end of the day.
Is there a way to get a copy or some basics on the Alaska pilot contract besides just per hour? Wanting to get a real sense of what you can make over there.
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No love for me from the CP I met. I need more TT and TPIC so for now it's time to hustle hours.
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by roscoe329
Got a chance to meet with many folks from Alaska at Oshkosh earlier this week. Left feeling good at the end of the day.
Is there a way to get a copy or some basics on the Alaska pilot contract besides just per hour? Wanting to get a real sense of what you can make over there.
It's a decent contract, ALPA contract was signed 2013.

Full cancellation pay, full deadhead pay. Deadheads exceeding 5 hours require first class. Wifi paid for when Deadheading. Crew meals provided.
2:1 Duty rig, (1.75:1 when working back side of the clock)
3.5:1 Trip rig
5 hour min day
Per Diem $2.15/hr
Int'l override pay (including ETOPS to Hawaii) $5 for CA, $4 for FO.
Block or better pay on a leg by leg basis.
Traditional line bidding, vacation trip touching applies (but you do have to pick up to guarantee)
Monthly guarantee of 75 hours for line/long call, 79 for short call. This guarantee can be "flexed" up to a max of 3 hours in a month, for a max of 15 hours a year at the company's discretion.
Vacation starts at 15 days (prorated based on hire date)
13.5% contribution to 401K, no match required (pension for those hired prior to 2010)
Several different medical PPO plans, dental and vision as well, and company contributes to an HSA.
Bonus performance pay of 5% when certain goals are met.
Open time pickup is (I believe) mostly straight pay, but some of it is at 1.5 credit.
Day room provided for sits exceeding four hours.
20% discount on ALK stock.
Priority status if you designate a commuting city. Otherwise, a move will be paid for you if displaced from your domicile.
Presently no uniform bank and housing is not provided during training. 85 hours per month credit during new hire training, no per diem.
Upgrade presently is at about 8-9 years, with a projection for it to drop to 4-5 years for new hires.
2 737-900ERs were delivered last week, six more this year. 72 more ERs, MAX-8's and 9's in the upcoming years, with options for another 42 after that. Some of the older -400s (there are about 25 left) are being incrementally retired.
I've heard of a decent number of pilots who plan to retire when their pension maxes out at 30 years of service (as in, they are not waiting for age 65), but age 65 attrition is also coming.

I may be a bit off with some of this info, but it's a quick breakdown.
Keep working on it, it's a great place to be.
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
No love for me from the CP I met. I need more TT and TPIC so for now it's time to hustle hours.
Are you already in the left seat? Yeah just crank that PIC out! I believe 500-700 PIC is a trigger (or decent minimum) for them. Got your 4 year?
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:31 AM
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Are you already in the left seat? Yeah just crank that PIC out! I believe 500-700 PIC is a trigger (or decent minimum) for them. Got your 4 year?
Have the 4yr but still about 10-12 months out from upgrade. My TT is low (2700 TT) so I wasn't really surprised when he told me what I needed to do. I agree with the PIC trigger he said about 700 PIC and he liked to see 4000-4500 total time. I was actually a little shocked when he said not to go to the training department, but it made sense I need hours more than anything else. Overall good experience and reinforces the need to get the hours asap.
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Have the 4yr but still about 10-12 months out from upgrade. My TT is low (2700 TT) so I wasn't really surprised when he told me what I needed to do. I agree with the PIC trigger he said about 700 PIC and he liked to see 4000-4500 total time. I was actually a little shocked when he said not to go to the training department, but it made sense I need hours more than anything else. Overall good experience and reinforces the need to get the hours asap.
Sounds like you will have about 3400 or so when you upgrade.. plus another year to get at least 6-700 to put you roughly at 4100TT. Yes just keep flying, and of course take upgrade as soon as possible. As for the training department, I would only pursue LCA, as you will keep flying a lot (at least as an OE instructor). I bet you could get hired prior to that point though.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:27 AM
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Sounds like you will have about 3400 or so when you upgrade.. plus another year to get at least 6-700 to put you roughly at 4100TT. Yes just keep flying, and of course take upgrade as soon as possible. As for the training department, I would only pursue LCA, as you will keep flying a lot (at least as an OE instructor). I bet you could get hired prior to that point though.
I was thinking about the same as far as times. I miss the Alaska ops a lot my time at Horizon was the best I've ever had and hopefully I can get back to it on the mainline side of the house. The PAC NW conference isn't too far off so hopefully I can make it up there and de everyone again.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I was thinking about the same as far as times. I miss the Alaska ops a lot my time at Horizon was the best I've ever had and hopefully I can get back to it on the mainline side of the house. The PAC NW conference isn't too far off so hopefully I can make it up there and de everyone again.
That's good to hear, something to aim for. Great company, worth the pursuit. You never know, demand could change and the PIC requirement won't matter anymore.
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