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12-12-2016, 06:09 AM

#2301

Jason5

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Originally Posted by OCCP

W2= probably around 48-50k.

Take home pay probably around $2800-3000/mo.

If you get on at the front of the wave you'll probably get a line in about 6 months but as always this can change. I was told about 6 months reserve and it ended up being almost 3 years.

125% will be very little on reserve, more if you have a line.

Welcome to your next stepping stone

Oh man. Currently a regional captain. I figured the difference in the averages over three years is something like $15k, after that, of course, Virgin wins, but a lot of things could happen in those three years. Then again, it's more of a long-term destination. Tough call.

12-12-2016, 06:50 AM

#2302

OCCP

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Well almost everyone took a pay cut first year. Even for the legacies up until recently. If you're looking long term don't settle for this mess. It's a decent place to work as long as you have a line and the pilot group is awesome, but it just doesn't add up long term. We offer the worst of both worlds: low pay and no movement.

At least at frontier, spirit, or sun country there is growth to offset the low pay. Here you'll be looking at over a decade to upgrade and Alaska management is already playing dirty with the unions. It's going to be a long time before we see more money.

12-14-2016, 06:23 PM

#2303

Klsytakesit

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Originally Posted by OCCP

Alaska management is already playing dirty with the unions. It's going to be a long time before we see more money.

Alaska management has always"played dirty" with labor....They just get away with it because they are "cool and hip" and everyone wants to live in Seattle....And we are not an "awesome pilot group"....self serving, self centered, selfish, spineless.....things that come to mind when I think of our group....So for the ex Horizon crowd it will seem familiar when we integrate and for the rest.....believe not a word you hear from anyone....

12-14-2016, 06:32 PM

#2304

OCCP

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Well I think almost all of the Virgin guys I fly with are pretty solid and hopefully not spineless and not a whole lot want to live in Seattle, so maybe together we can all grow a pair!

12-14-2016, 09:37 PM

#2305

NotTellin

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Originally Posted by OCCP

Well I think almost all of the Virgin guys I fly with are pretty solid and hopefully not spineless and not a whole lot want to live in Seattle, so maybe together we can all grow a pair!

Hell, I live in SEA. I commute to SFO. I would love to be based in SEA on the bus.

After dealing with management at 8 different airlines, I've learned you get what you negotiate. This management team needs to be taught that the negotiations playing field has been drastically changed from the last time, hell every other time, they've been at the table. NO SCOPE = NOPE.

12-19-2016, 08:18 AM

#2306

opdeliber

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Is the New York base relatively senior or is it fairly easy to get as a new hire?

12-19-2016, 11:58 AM

#2307

cmrflyer

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At the moment it's very easy to get. Question is though, will it stay, or will Alaska close it.
Fingers crossed it stays.

12-23-2016, 12:39 PM

#2308

Petethedog

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Any insight into how the company views folks w/o 121 time?
Hoping to break into 121 next year while bypassing the regionals.
Love the Virgin product. Loved ALK when I lived in SEA but a bit leery about how the merge will work. Nonetheless, looking to stay West Coast...

As for me:
4800TT
1500 Part 135 (80% was PIC)
750 TPIC (mostly PC12 and caravan)
1200 Turbine
200 Jet
Bachelor's degree

Finally, planning on talking to recruiters at a fair next month, any tips?

Thanks all!

12-24-2016, 01:00 AM

#2309

ImperialxRat

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Your times look competitive to me. You will have to do a SIM ride if under 1000TPIC though. Talk about your customer service skills at the career fair. I came from Part 135, although I did have some regional 121 in my past. There was a guy who was only 135 in my new hire class though.

EDIT: This was at Alaska, but I'm assuming their interview process will be the one going forward.

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Originally Posted by Petethedog