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Old 01-07-2016, 06:28 AM
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The VX hiring machine is bypassing people like myself and a few others I know that have been knocking ion the door that believe in the product. The HR machine is the weak link in the process of getting your airline properly staffed. You guys are undermanned and quality people are getting picked up by the competition due to HR not being proactive. I know 2 other guys in my same shoes. One just went to B6 instead of waiting. He'll probably be LGB based before VX finally calls him.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by silver fleet
The VX hiring machine is bypassing people like myself and a few others I know that have been knocking ion the door that believe in the product. The HR machine is the weak link in the process of getting your airline properly staffed. You guys are undermanned and quality people are getting picked up by the competition due to HR not being proactive. I know 2 other guys in my same shoes. One just went to B6 instead of waiting. He'll probably be LGB based before VX finally calls him.
truth. this is a big problem, but not all of it. The first class should've started way earlier than nov 2nd. There's nothing the hiring dept can do about that. Those orders come from above (where there are more problems)

That being said, I'm hearing that they are avoiding candidates that are competitive enough to be sucked up by legacy carriers in short order. Not that this matter because legacy carriers are still hiring our pilots but the reality that the pay/work rules will drive the other end of staffing hasn't gotten on their radar yet.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:54 AM
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This is true. The same could probably be said about other airlines as well, but probably more prominent here. I recommended at guy a few months ago and I was told he was "added to the list". He finally got the questionnaire a few days ago....right after he finished training at a different airline.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
This is true. The same could probably be said about other airlines as well, but probably more prominent here. I recommended at guy a few months ago and I was told he was "added to the list". He finally got the questionnaire a few days ago....right after he finished training at a different airline.
We do have similar problems here at JB. It isn't uncommon for pilots to wait 4-6mo for a class date after they pass the interview phase. In that time many of them get hired elsewhere.

The aluminum beanie theory is that JB does this on purpose so that we are only left with those who really want to work at JB, and/or can't get hired anywhere else. Attrition was only about 60-80 pilots for all of 2015 (3000 pilots total).

Sorry for the intrusion, carry on folks!
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:08 AM
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Frustrating when youre on the outside looking in. Thanks for the posts....Glad others see it too....
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by silver fleet
Frustrating when youre on the outside looking in. Thanks for the posts....Glad others see it too....
Are you:

1.) RJ FO
2.) Exactly 27 yrs. old
3.) California address

If not then, you know where your issues lie.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
Are you:

1.) RJ FO
2.) Exactly 27 yrs. old
3.) California address

If not then, you know where your issues lie.
Damn, you nailed it. First 2 took me out.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:23 AM
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RJ CA here, 4 year degree with honors, Bay Area local, and have been applying for years... got the TBNT after the interview last year. HQ was impressive, and everybody seemed nice. Oh well. On to bigger and better things.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:52 PM
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I'm a reserve Captain at Virgin. Just finished 11 days straight with one 30 hour break that encompassed 2 days. Worked on two of my days off. Ready to retire. We need help.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by silver fleet
The VX hiring machine is bypassing people like myself and a few others I know that have been knocking ion the door that believe in the product. The HR machine is the weak link in the process of getting your airline properly staffed. You guys are undermanned and quality people are getting picked up by the competition due to HR not being proactive. I know 2 other guys in my same shoes. One just went to B6 instead of waiting. He'll probably be LGB based before VX finally calls him.
I agree with the HR process being strange. I didn't hear anything for a while and decided to hit the job fairs. Meeting the HR team in person made all the difference. Job fairs blow and I personally think it's exploiting us pilots. But, it's the only way to get face to face with the recruiters these days. It worked for me so maybe it'll work for you.
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