AS/HA SLI Discussion
#141
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
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Maybe the DOJ has enough of a feedback loop to realize their prior blocking actions ultimately will do more harm to the ULCC model than helping it.
#142
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#143
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OK guess you don't want to clear up whatever is was I'm really talking about.
Keep passing around that grade A hopium with your FOs though. Seems like they are really eating up your ideas on aircraft that have an indefiniate delay on delivery.
Keep passing around that grade A hopium with your FOs though. Seems like they are really eating up your ideas on aircraft that have an indefiniate delay on delivery.
#144
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Joined APC: Sep 2024
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Also on the wide body here. I fly mostly seattle and portland so i see most of our commuters regularly. I personally know of no mainland commuters that are excited about the idea of a west coast base if it's in a 737. Any commuters already have the option of going wide body cargo. Most still choose to commute to HNL for a few longhaul trips then commute back. I wouldn't worry much about us coming for your Anchorage, portland or Seattle flying.
#145
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Joined APC: Oct 2023
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Gunna be a hot take but I argue that any company being bought out of bankruptcy (or near bankruptcy) should be stapled to the bottom plain and simple.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
#146
Gunna be a hot take but I argue that any company being bought out of bankruptcy (or near bankruptcy) should be stapled to the bottom plain and simple.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
You went to work for an airline with no wide-bodies so you should be fenced out of them the rest of your career. Your logic.
#147
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Gunna be a hot take but I argue that any company being bought out of bankruptcy (or near bankruptcy) should be stapled to the bottom plain and simple.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
#148
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 88
Gunna be a hot take but I argue that any company being bought out of bankruptcy (or near bankruptcy) should be stapled to the bottom plain and simple.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
#149
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 92
More importantly, how close was HA to actual bankruptcy, really? And how close woud bankruptcy have goptten us to actually liquidating and shutting down, really? Not pilot rumor but actual financials. Do you know? Because I sure don't. However at wirst guess likely at least a couple years at a minimum. Another buyer could have stepped in, or it could have restructured and come out of it like it had in the past. As much as we all love to blame the departing C-suite for running the company into the ground, remember their actual goal was probably a sale all along. So the stock price crashing was NOT incinsistent with that. They did what they planned to do, and they did it quite well. Very likely they would have in fact been competent enough to lead a restructuring, despite our total lack of confidence in them.
Whether or not we would have eventually filed, is a completely different question than whether or not we would have actually closed up shop. Finance people do not think the same way we do.
The SLI will be arbitrated, and make everyone mildly to moderately unhappy (within two standard deviations of misery) for a few years, and then after that either people will be happy, or not care any more ( will the exception of our now-combined 5% "fun police")
Whether or not we would have eventually filed, is a completely different question than whether or not we would have actually closed up shop. Finance people do not think the same way we do.
The SLI will be arbitrated, and make everyone mildly to moderately unhappy (within two standard deviations of misery) for a few years, and then after that either people will be happy, or not care any more ( will the exception of our now-combined 5% "fun police")
#150
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,680
Gunna be a hot take but I argue that any company being bought out of bankruptcy (or near bankruptcy) should be stapled to the bottom plain and simple.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
We are in the middle of the largest hiring wave in the history of aviation and those guys chose to stay at a company that is failing. There was ample opportunity to leave and if the financially solvent party did not step in then you would be at the bottom anyways just not necessarily here.
Open to feedback but would love to hear how any sort of "integration" makes sense given current climate.
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