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Old 09-01-2024, 03:34 PM
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Seems like it's pretty standard in that it's basically pay only. No improvements.

The upside is that JCBA where we will all get a pony. Or if the merger fails it extends us less than a year to when openers would be anyhow.

Don't really see any downside here. Although the theme of no work rule improvements isn't encouraging.
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Old 09-01-2024, 05:24 PM
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Seems like it's pretty standard in that it's basically pay only. No improvements.

The upside is that JCBA where we will all get a pony. Or if the merger fails it extends us less than a year to when openers would be anyhow.

Don't really see any downside here. Although the theme of no work rule improvements isn't encouraging.
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Old 09-01-2024, 08:15 PM
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Old 09-01-2024, 08:32 PM
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Old 09-02-2024, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TTail
We already have a bunch of pay raises scheduled during that time period. I thinkk this keeps you in pace (percentage wise) with our raises and matches up when Section 6 would start.
This is what the MEC put out to vote on. What are your increases?

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Old 09-02-2024, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Disappointment
This is what the MEC put out to vote on. What are your increases?

3/2/25
3/2/26
1/21/27
Ammendable 3/2/27 (with a 6 month opener I think)
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Old 09-02-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
3/2/25
3/2/26
1/21/27
Ammendable 3/2/27 (with a 6 month opener I think)
TTail failed to mention that Hawaiian’s 321 rates are about $20 less per hour on the Captain side and over $10 on the FO than those proposed Alaska rates.

It won’t be hard to convince some HAL pilots that pay parity is the best they can hope for in a JCBA.
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Old 09-02-2024, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gobows
TTail failed to mention that Hawaiian’s 321 rates are about $20 less per hour on the Captain side and over $10 on the FO than those proposed Alaska rates.

It won’t be hard to convince some HAL pilots that pay parity is the best they can hope for in a JCBA.
In what world (other than maybe Hawaii Public schools) is $9.57 "almost" $20, and $4.08 "over" $10?

I'm much more concerned about getting the 330 and 787 payrates up to Delta/United/American during the JCBA. Those are pretty big numbers and I don't know how Alaska Management is going to feel about that.
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Originally Posted by TTail
In what world (other than maybe Hawaii Public schools) is $9.57 "almost" $20, and $4.08 "over" $10?

I'm much more concerned about getting the 330 and 787 payrates up to Delta/United/American during the JCBA. Those are pretty big numbers and I don't know how Alaska Management is going to feel about that.
Unity in these matters. 717 is already B scale to the 321/737. Wonder what how much will there will be to band pay rates for a fleet that will be expiring. The 767 got “screwed” because it was a fleet on its way out in 2017.
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Originally Posted by Gobows
TTail failed to mention that Hawaiian’s 321 rates are about $20 less per hour on the Captain side and over $10 on the FO than those proposed Alaska rates.
Yeah who cares about the dates, he conveniently didn't post the actual rates

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I'm much more concerned about getting the 330 and 787 payrates up to Delta/United/American during the JCBA. Those are pretty big numbers and I don't know how Alaska Management is going to feel about that.
Who cares how management "feels". The precident has been set that rates are the same as the big 3. We fought hard for that (and scope) this last contract.
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