yallMahomies

Predictions for 787 Asia & Europe routes from KSEA on Alaska metal by late 2020s/early 2030s? No, I am not joking...

DenainaPilot

SEA-ANC 5X a day. This might be premature since the merger isn’t approved yet.

GoodJet

SEA-GEG and SEA-PDX every hour. Lots of memos about hot brakes, brake wear and tire lifespan because the same guys wrecking the brakes on 737s will be still trying to make N on 16R at SEA in a 787.

Jetlikespeed

if pasco/tri city area keeps growing, lie flats on the PSC - SEA might be a nice edge against deltas 175s

av8or

😂😂😂😂😂 now that’s hilarious right there!!!

rickair7777

I thought so.

I also remember wondering why I was doing multiple SEA-PDX turns in a brand new 321 ETOPS NEO.

vaxedtothemax

It'll be whatever the HA flight attendants mandate. All culturally appropriate w/only HA crews in the back.

WindWalker999

Frighteningly accurate.

AKCattleCarrier

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. But leads me to think that the HA employee group is in for a rude awakening when the AS C Suite takes control of the tiller. Our FA's don't have a say in anything, actually they get treated like 4 yr olds, they get negotiated with like 4 yr olds. For every ounce of pay raise/boading pay they got in their TA they gave up the equivalent or more in concessions in insurance, sick leave, etc. I have only flown with one FA(A) that knew anything about their TA (I've asked on every bathroom break since it was announced). This person was not impressed. I get a sense most know nothing about their union.

Their was quite a bit of brand loyalty to the VA brand by its employees. Understandably, they liked their company the way it was (it sounds like it was a really cool place to work). VA FA's got fired left and right as they performed various little acts of revolt. AS was happy to unload FA's that didn't fall in line. A new cheaper FA can be trained up and on the line in 6 weeks.

I get a sense that HA employees think they are going to get a bailout and it will business as usual but with healthy profit margins. I think history shows much the opposite. As BM said "we learned a lot from our merger with VA". I believe "integration" will be much more efficient/ruthless this time. ETOPS flying off the west coast can be integrated almost immediately (787/330s to the West Coast?). Inter-Island can be synergized almost immediately into the current ETOPS structure (bye bye 30 hr LIH layover). $/Yen chart continues to show nothing good for the Japanese tourist (US just threatened to name Japan a currency manipulator through failed attempts to strengthen their currency).

Its a shame because I BUY tickets with my partner to ride the 330 to Hawaii once a year. The HA product is supperior to AS in every way that matters to me. The 330 is a big quiet comfy ride and its nice to sit on the side wall with only 2 seats. The FAs are nice (unlike ours) and the vibe in general is way better. ETOPS 737 is miserable. Unfortunately I see tons of places for the accountants to cut costs.

ridinhigh

The FA group here is treated well because they do stand out and treat guests well (mostly). Without the Aloha shared in the cabin, HA isnt HA and sticking it to the FAs will see that aloha evaporate.
SO yes, there is a bit of bending to the will of the FA group I agree. But for a valid reason the management knows what sets this place apart.
Hence the "value" to the HA brand. If that ALOha can continue to thrive then so will the brand. If not maybe it doesnt as it will just become another form of transportation.