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Old 07-16-2024, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
AK is an OCONUS State, and the code for an Asian airline.

AS is the IATA airline code for Alaskan Air.
Duly noted, I guess fact checks are sometimes actually factually.
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Old 07-17-2024, 08:49 AM
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Yep. Hence the repeated message of keeping things separate for a while. Integration, particularly fleet integration, will take a long time considering Boeings molasses delivery schedule.
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...
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LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...
How has United been treating you these days?
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Old 07-17-2024, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fostro
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...
Okay fine all the 330s, and HAL pilots, are being moved to SeaTac. Still not phasing those babies out for the next decade.
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Old 07-17-2024, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fostro
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...
This source says it’s mutual…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisag...oute-transfer/
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Old 07-17-2024, 10:13 AM
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The definition of a troll. Obsessed with the “Ex”
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Old 07-17-2024, 12:08 PM
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The definition of a troll. Obsessed with the “Ex”
Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.
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Old 07-17-2024, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.
The only way the HA brand goes away is if we adopt a brand new, combined brand. We already have a hard enough time convincing people on the East Coast that if they buy a ticket on Alaska Airlines they don't have to go through Anchorage. Yes the current branding works for the current model, but any kind of expansion outside of the PNW will require new branding to be successful.
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Old 07-17-2024, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.
It's the airline industry so I would HOPE airlines change their business model over the long term. To say Pualani or the 321s will be replaced in 7-10 years I'd say thats life. For it to happen immidiately or completed within 5 years is another matter entirely. It's what Fostro is insisting will happen.
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Originally Posted by word302
The only way the HA brand goes away is if we adopt a brand new, combined brand. We already have a hard enough time convincing people on the East Coast that if they buy a ticket on Alaska Airlines they don't have to go through Anchorage. Yes the current branding works for the current model, but any kind of expansion outside of the PNW will require new branding to be successful.
Yes.

I don't think BM and ST are so in love with the current brand that they'd give up much more than a nickel to keep it. Unlike folks in the past, BT, etc.

If they want to be a national/global airline they're going to have to adjust the branding eventually. Maybe keep the Eskimo on one side of the tail and the hula girl on the other.
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