Aloha from a Hawaiian Pilot
12-03-2023, 10:56 AM
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Aloha from a Hawaiian Pilot
Well friends, it looks like we will be working together in the not too distant future! I'm excited about the possibility, because I'm a Hawaiian Pilot that has been commuting from PDX.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
12-03-2023, 11:14 AM
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Well friends, it looks like we will be working together in the not too distant future! I'm excited about the possibility, because I'm a Hawaiian Pilot that has been commuting from PDX.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
In general, 1 + 1 never = 2. It is often less than that...and with AK Hawwaii presence, I can't see them continuing to overlap routes/schedules.
If there is an Air Group that knows how to whipsaw and exploit seperate labor groups, it is Alaska.
I hope i am wrong, but I don't see this as a good thing for labor at either company.
12-03-2023, 11:35 AM
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Yes, announcement said merger, which is probably required by scope anyway. Separate brands, common sales platform.
That's the norm, at least to a degree.
Could be a lot worse. In this case I think geography alone will minimize conflict. People in HI want to be there. People not in HI mostly don't want to be there.
Ultimately it will be up to the company to try to grow the whole thing, which I'm sure they intend to do.
Now I would have been *really* worried if they announced that they were going to sunset the HAL brand
Ultimately it will be up to the company to try to grow the whole thing, which I'm sure they intend to do.
Now I would have been *really* worried if they announced that they were going to sunset the HAL brand
12-03-2023, 11:36 AM
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Well friends, it looks like we will be working together in the not too distant future! I'm excited about the possibility, because I'm a Hawaiian Pilot that has been commuting from PDX.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
Overall I'm happy here.
Alaska is normally very financially conservative. So the main concern for me with a move this big is how it will shake out financially...
12-03-2023, 11:59 AM
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Well friends, it looks like we will be working together in the not too distant future! I'm excited about the possibility, because I'm a Hawaiian Pilot that has been commuting from PDX.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
Unfortunately, I don't know much about Alaska Airlines. I was hoping we could start a discussion about general morale, the new(ish) contract, work rules and anything else you want to get off your chest re: our new pilot group.
Mahalo,
M
General moral is pretty good. We have our share of "burn it to the ground" people, as well as "this is the best place ever". The truth is in the middle, and most of us are optimistic. Contract is still in the implementation stages, so some things are better, and some will get better, but it can always improve.
Welcome to our dysfunctional family.
Atl
12-03-2023, 12:06 PM
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Thanks for the welcome, I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone here.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
12-03-2023, 12:09 PM
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Thanks for the welcome, I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone here.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
12-03-2023, 12:16 PM
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Thanks for the welcome, I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone here.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
Is there somewhere I could find the new Alaska contract? I would love to read up on it. Also, does this mean our combined pilot group will have to negotiate a whole new collective contract? I'm fairly new to the airline life - I would love to hear from more you more experienced guys how you think this might play out, nuts and bolts wise.
12-03-2023, 03:08 PM
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maybe you guys can include buying sun country at the same time! 😜 from a sad sun country pilot group who thought it would be us being bought by Alaska 😅
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