Originally Posted by rickair7777

Are those towns not EAS eligible?

AS could also move some QX planes out there, if that made more sense than 73's.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Are those towns not EAS eligible?

AS could also move some QX planes out there, if that made more sense than 73's.

Originally Posted by TwOtter

I don't see it as good for the state of Hawaii; there are a lot of jobs that will be lost at Hawaiian's HQ and it will be a loss for the state's tax revenue. Will it be good for the state if the base shrinks? If the MX base shrinks? When there are lesser employment options that pay real wages, will that be a net positive for the state? I don't see this as anything but a negative for the state of Hawaii and the population of Hawaii.

I can't see this being a positive to the people of American Samoa either.

Hawaiian donates a sizeable amount into the community, especially to the University of Hawaii [Athletics]. Would anyone expect Alaska to do the same? Will Alaska continue to push the Team Kokua Program? Will Alaska attempt to create scholarship programs for kids coming from Hawaiian high schools?

MKK is a 4,500 ft runway; does Alaska operate 737s to get in/out of there? I would assume if any carrier in the US does it would be Alaska, but I genuinely don't know.

I've always thought Alaska was quick to end unprofitable routes. I can't see where service to Molokai, a population of less than 8,000 people, with one hotel and one former hotel cut up into AirBnb(s) being profitable. Even if the people of Molokai do go to Oahu and Maui for regular visits for health/dental procedures (and all other non-elective type trips).

Lanai has a smaller population and even fewer options for tourist stays (excluding the Four Seasons).

Maybe Horizon operates seagliders into Manele Harbor and the Molokai Wharf..... (sarcastic)

Does anyone think Alaska will bring service there? [ I do not ]

Originally Posted by TwOtter

I don't see it as good for the state of Hawaii; there are a lot of jobs that will be lost at Hawaiian's HQ and it will be a loss for the state's tax revenue. Will it be good for the state if the base shrinks? If the MX base shrinks? When there are lesser employment options that pay real wages, will that be a net positive for the state? I don't see this as anything but a negative for the state of Hawaii and the population of Hawaii.

I can't see this being a positive to the people of American Samoa either.

Hawaiian donates a sizeable amount into the community, especially to the University of Hawaii [Athletics]. Would anyone expect Alaska to do the same? Will Alaska continue to push the Team Kokua Program? Will Alaska attempt to create scholarship programs for kids coming from Hawaiian high schools?

MKK is a 4,500 ft runway; does Alaska operate 737s to get in/out of there? I would assume if any carrier in the US does it would be Alaska, but I genuinely don't know.

I've always thought Alaska was quick to end unprofitable routes. I can't see where service to Molokai, a population of less than 8,000 people, with one hotel and one former hotel cut up into AirBnb(s) being profitable. Even if the people of Molokai do go to Oahu and Maui for regular visits for health/dental procedures (and all other non-elective type trips).

Lanai has a smaller population and even fewer options for tourist stays (excluding the Four Seasons).

Maybe Horizon operates seagliders into Manele Harbor and the Molokai Wharf..... (sarcastic)

Does anyone think Alaska will bring service there? [ I do not ]

Originally Posted by Rama

MKK is suited for turboprops, but not bigger. Mostly Caravans now.
HAL did a once daily service back around 20 years ago or so. Could only use runway 5, not 23.
Historically has been 235 sized service,, really not sutable for anything larger.

Originally Posted by DenainaPilot

AS does similar things for communities and universities in Alaska…

Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax

Has anyone seen the amount of inflated job titles and waste that occurs at Koapaka. Our duty officers are basically being used for traffic watch. The only daily briefs I receive are consitantly H1 delays or "hey your parking pass key FOB works now". If jobs need to be eliminated to make the operation profitable then it is what it is. They can relocate to the mainland if they wish to continue with the airline. Just like millions of Americans do on a regular basis. Move to where the job is.

Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax

HA doesn't do MKK/LNY now and hasn't for a few years (thanks to those wonderful Flu lockdowns and other contractual conditions). What would be any different with the AK acquisition?

Has anyone seen the amount of inflated job titles and waste that occurs at Koapaka. Our duty officers are basically being used for traffic watch. The only daily briefs I receive are consitantly H1 delays or "hey your parking pass key FOB works now". If jobs need to be eliminated to make the operation profitable then it is what it is. They can relocate to the mainland if they wish to continue with the airline. Just like millions of Americans do on a regular basis. Move to where the job is.

The acquisition and "changes for the State of Hawaii" are a heck of a lot better than the 6 years+ of profitability in the red for HA. Don't listen to P.I. when he says " we're right on track". That's just a way for him to save his job for a bit longer. Companies don't operate at hundreds of millions in losses for years on end without it hurting the business or gutting the contracts of employees. Hawaii and it's citizens don't own the airline. It's not a State run entity. It may be a breath of fresh air to have the airline run by people a bit more experienced. As of right now HA really can't do much correctly. We used to be the best VFR run airline, and now we can't even dominate that sector. We literally face no operational/wx challenges that every other airline faces, and we can't even beat Delta (ATL,JFK,DTW bases) in on time performance.