Alaska buying Hawaiian airlines.
12-14-2023, 09:19 AM
#281
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Because I've personally seen some crazy sh!t in JFK, YUL etc. And every time it was Air France. (crashes, lining up for the wrong rwy landing at JFK, rwy and taxiway incursions. Everytime, Air France)
AF is probably the model we're basing our OEM off of. (Being housemates with Airbus etc). When HA pilots in Koapaka say European carriers have a better record and do it better, they tend to forget American is the model for what aviation is around the world. And I'd have to look it up, but probably operate in worse weather and in far greater numbers of flights daily.
AF is probably the model we're basing our OEM off of. (Being housemates with Airbus etc). When HA pilots in Koapaka say European carriers have a better record and do it better, they tend to forget American is the model for what aviation is around the world. And I'd have to look it up, but probably operate in worse weather and in far greater numbers of flights daily.
What everyone fails to recognize is that Asian and European carriers spend up to 9 months in initial training for OEM. Most US initial programs are roughly about 3 weeks, so it's not the OEM that makes them safer (this is management's claim) it's training that creates the safety numbers. Give any US carrier 9 months of initial training and we would never have any incidents, it's apples and oranges...
Unity.....
12-14-2023, 11:37 AM
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Because I've personally seen some crazy sh!t in JFK, YUL etc. And every time it was Air France. (crashes, lining up for the wrong rwy landing at JFK, rwy and taxiway incursions. Everytime, Air France)
AF is probably the model we're basing our OEM off of. (Being housemates with Airbus etc). When HA pilots in Koapaka say European carriers have a better record and do it better, they tend to forget American is the model for what aviation is around the world. And I'd have to look it up, but probably operate in worse weather and in far greater numbers of flights daily.
AF is probably the model we're basing our OEM off of. (Being housemates with Airbus etc). When HA pilots in Koapaka say European carriers have a better record and do it better, they tend to forget American is the model for what aviation is around the world. And I'd have to look it up, but probably operate in worse weather and in far greater numbers of flights daily.
12-15-2023, 12:06 AM
#286
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Even after all your comments, the goal remains the same, a better contract for all.
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12-15-2023, 07:01 AM
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In that vein, is there any concrete language in the AS CBA that addresses the holding company operating two sister airlines with different seniority lists? All the discussion here has been on a fully integrated airline, but is there anything that would stop them from running two separate airlines under the same holding company like Air France and KLM or Trans States and GoJet?
12-15-2023, 07:21 AM
#290
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There is language. I believe 24 months to merge.
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