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Old 09-06-2024, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Any guesses when this thing is going to pass DOT muster?
Someone told me that the AS/VX merger was 8 days after the DOJ approval. Might be more complicated given Hawaiians more international orientation.
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
Someone told me that the AS/VX merger was 8 days after the DOJ approval. Might be more complicated given Hawaiians more international orientation.
DOT might be looking for ways to stall, or extort concessions. If they can stall until after the election, they may be less constrained politically, if that's what it's about. Although AS might be able to get an injunction f something that normally takes days is slow rolled for no apparent regulatory reason.
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Old 09-06-2024, 07:48 AM
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DOT might be looking for ways to stall, or extort concessions. If they can stall until after the election, they may be less constrained politically, if that's what it's about. Although AS might be able to get an injunction f something that normally takes days is slow rolled for no apparent regulatory reason.
DOT was brought up during the company call. My interpretation was that management is surprised this has become something other than a formality. It seems like it has become political, at least to me.
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$HA $ALK The US Department of Transportation may postpone its decision on Alaska Air’s acquisition of Hawaiian Holdings until after the presidential election, CTFN reported.
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$HA $ALK The US Department of Transportation may postpone its decision on Alaska Air’s acquisition of Hawaiian Holdings until after the presidential election, CTFN reported.
Is this another one of their "A source of ours says..."? First off, why on earth would that even matter? This is a nothingburger imo. I've followed the merger pretty closely, and the amount of times Seeking Alpha, CTFN, The Capitol Forum have been right...has been 0 times. lol
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Originally Posted by sawdustking
Is this another one of their "A source of ours says..."? First off, why on earth would that even matter? This is a nothingburger imo. I've followed the merger pretty closely, and the amount of times Seeking Alpha, CTFN, The Capitol Forum have been right...has been 0 times. lol

My thoughts exactly. There is no political will to stop this. This month, October tops.
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Old 09-06-2024, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
DOT was brought up during the company call. My interpretation was that management is surprised this has become something other than a formality. It seems like it has become political, at least to me.
I’ve heard this a couple times, but is there any actual evidence of this?
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:31 PM
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I’ve heard this a couple times, but is there any actual evidence of this?
I've been volunteering for a 527 we've gotten a bill into congress. Granted I've done most of my work with the Department of the Interior, BLM, Park Service etc. but delay is sometimes used as a political tactic. It could be the case. Or the DOT is just understaffed or it is a complex action. So no one knows.

For sure the managment pilots seem surprised by the delay.
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Originally Posted by Akamai
Our 330/787 rate is $423.99 on 3/25

Your TA rate is $375.74 on 9/25

Our 330/787 rate is $440.95 on 3/26

Your TA rate is $390.77 on 9/26

Our 330/787 rate is $454.18 on 3/27

Your 737 rates are slightly ahead of our 321 rates, your 737 rate is ~$50-60 an our less than our widebody rates. If that’s “slightly” then I’m really hoping for a slight increase in my widebody rate with the JCBA. Our widebody rates are less than DAL, but saying they are close to your 737 rates is disingenuous and laughable to this fixer-upper pilot. 🤦‍♂️ Let’s give unity another try!
If we counted our profit sharing, and you guys have none because all you have done is lose money for the last 4 years… seems different then your 321 rate🤔. Let me guess, your a public school prodigy?

2024. 362 + 29 hr= 391hr
2025. 375 + 30 hr= 405hr
2026. 390 + 32 hr= 422hr
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