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Old 08-30-2024, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Sour grapes… SK wanted to buy AS. If this merger goes through, his plan is foiled.
it’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out. Ben isn’t publicly tooting his ego horn for some reason. This is getting pretty long in the tooth.

I’m just a blue collar monkey union worker without any real insight into DC dynamics. But I personally wouldn’t underestimate the value of loyalty to the cult. And SK is definitely part of the cult. He was willing to throw large numbers of employees under the bus in service to the Covid narrative. Ben didn’t have anything resembling the balls to do that.

we also have a lame duck administration ****ed that they got thrown aside because Biden was unable to keep his drool off his chin. This admin and especially the Lena Khan types have serious ideological fealty and anything is justified in service of the ideology.

still think there is a 99 percent chance it’s a done deal. But those of us that have picked up extra religions to try and increase the potency of our prayers are finding interesting bed fellows in the anti-corp anti-business radicals. In kind it’s interesting to see the pineapple-essque underlings watching their ideological overlords contradict their best interests.
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Old 08-30-2024, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Sour grapes… SK wanted to buy AS. If this merger goes through, his plan is foiled.
He did?

filler…
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Old 08-31-2024, 05:55 AM
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He did?

filler…
lol, as of that acquisition would’ve ever been approved.
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Old 08-31-2024, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
lol, as of that acquisition would’ve ever been approved.
We saw SK between Dec 3rd and the Stock holders vote. We were concerned they were going to pull a jetblue and spoil the Alaska merger. Glad they thought better or it.
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Old 08-31-2024, 10:48 AM
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And SK is definitely part of the cult. He was willing to throw large numbers of employees under the bus in service to the Covid narrative.
It was ALL employees at HAL. No exemptions. I believe there was ONE exemption allowed for people in case of a medical allergy or severe reaction that had to be well documented by a licensed physician. Read, Legitamite scientifically backed up medical reason. 99.9% of people were unable to claim that at the time. You all know how that worked.

So then. Get the shot, resign, or take a year unpaid LOA to stew over it, then get the shot before you are allowed to return or resign. The supreme court's ruling on the "mandates" finally saved the people that took the one year LOA before their time ran out. Lots of those people wouldn't have returned.
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Old 08-31-2024, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian 5O
It was ALL employees at HAL. No exemptions. I believe there was ONE exemption allowed for people in case of a medical allergy or severe reaction that had to be well documented by a licensed physician. Read, Legitamite scientifically backed up medical reason. 99.9% of people were unable to claim that at the time. You all know how that worked.

So then. Get the shot, resign, or take a year unpaid LOA to stew over it, then get the shot before you are allowed to return or resign. The supreme court's ruling on the "mandates" finally saved the people that took the one year LOA before their time ran out. Lots of those people wouldn't have returned.
I had dinner with the crew and one of the FAs was former HA. She was terminated over the shot.
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Old 08-31-2024, 10:44 PM
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I had dinner with the crew and one of the FAs was former HA. She was terminated over the shot.
Kind of need my neighbors to get their shots like I need my neighbors to pay their taxes. In the case of covid, the entire dynamic was fudged by politics and all sides became martyrs for their own ridiculousness. The good news is no one has died from “the shot” at Hawaiian that I am aware of. The fear of covid or the shot probably did its own level of harm to health and relationships.
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Old 08-31-2024, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian 5O
It was ALL employees at HAL. No exemptions. I believe there was ONE exemption allowed for people in case of a medical allergy or severe reaction that had to be well documented by a licensed physician. Read, Legitamite scientifically backed up medical reason. 99.9% of people were unable to claim that at the time. You all know how that worked.

So then. Get the shot, resign, or take a year unpaid LOA to stew over it, then get the shot before you are allowed to return or resign. The supreme court's ruling on the "mandates" finally saved the people that took the one year LOA before their time ran out. Lots of those people wouldn't have returned.
Some of that was Japan pandering, some of that was the multigenerational house hold demographic in the islands, and some of that was the we have natural borders and we believe we can some how best this disease by prevention (and are resource limited to fight it if it does spread like fire). In the end, none of it mattered and it just ****ed everyone off. Everyone just looked at each other like they were either fascists or conspiracy quacks.
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Old 08-31-2024, 11:06 PM
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Kind of need my neighbors to get their shots like I need my neighbors to pay their taxes. In the case of covid, the entire dynamic was fudged by politics and all sides became martyrs for their own ridiculousness. The good news is no one has died from “the shot” at Hawaiian that I am aware of. The fear of covid or the shot probably did its own level of harm to health and relationships.
Pretty sad for her. She's now at the bottom of the list at AS....
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Pretty sad for her. She's now at the bottom of the list at AS....
It is sad for her.
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